Mishel at DeceptionBytes has posted a two part message concerning the ‘Presence Movement’. I read part one a few days ago, but had a hunch more was to come so held off posting the link or any portion of it until now. People, this stuff is downright spooky…This goes far beyond the strange and weird New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and their false teachings and beliefs.
Part one can be read here: The Coming Presence Movement- Should we be Alarmed?.
- NOTE: Those of you who read the post concerning Mariam’s recent vision, Unto Us A Child Is Born…. Saints Beware, are going to find part two of special interest; why? Because these false Apostles, with Dutch Sheets leading the way, are prophesying of a ‘baby’ which is to be born; the New Moses Movement; which is to bring about a ruler, deliverer and redeemer who will work signs and wonders. Can anyone say ‘spirit of antichrist?’ Also: take special note that this is being prophesied to not ONLY impact The Church but Civil Government. Is it a coinincidence that this timeline which Sheet’s speaks of and the birthing of this ‘baby’ are occuring within weeks of the Presidential election? Something to think about for sure…
Below is part two: The Coming Presence Movement – Part Two: Enter Moses
In the first part of this two part article we discussed Dutch Sheets claiming that God visited him on June 15th 2008. During this alleged visitation “God” told him to host His presence for 90 days and to hold 3 days of worship starting September 11th through the 13th to mark the last three days of the 90 day period. The 90 days would serve to incubate and mature the movement before it would be released mainstream. Enter Moses.
“I hear the Lord say, “be expectant concerning September. Something big is coming!”” (This word was given to me in May of 2008) “I was awakened this morning at 2:22 A.M. and the Spirit had me get up and receive something for Pastor Dutch [*Sheets is the author of this so why is he referring to himself in the third person?] about what is happening during these 90 days of hosting the Ark of His Presence. I was instructed to go to Acts 7 and read what Stephen had to say. There was the story about Moses and how he was hidden from Pharaoh from 3 months, or 90 days! Acts 7:19-20 and Exodus 2:1-10
The Spirit said these words to me about the 90 days of worship: Moses mother gave birth to a ruler, deliver and redeemer who worked wonders and signs. She hid him for three months and when she could no longer hide him she put him in an ARK. The Spirit said for the next 90 days this birthing and “young baby” will be hidden from exposure to the world (Egypt). When it can no longer be hidden, He will allow the ARK of his Presence to be set up in the main stream of the world to be found by those who will accept Moses and love him and give him freedom to be in Pharaoh’s courts.
According to his words above (taken word-for-word from his website), Sheets is comparing these 90 days of worship and the “hosting of his presence” to the hiding of Moses from the Egyptians!
According to the Word of God, Moses mother Jochebed hid baby Moses for 90 days from the Egyptians who had been instructed by Pharaoh to kill all baby boys born to the Hebrew slaves. Moses was a type and shadow of Christ and all of God’s early dealings with Israel were transacted through Moses. He was a Prophet Priest and King just as our Messiah whom he foreshadowed. Moses was placed in a basket (type of Ark) and floated down the river Nile where he was found by the daughter of Pharaoh. Moses represented the law and was placed in an ark to symbolize the ark of the Old Covenant which would physically house the law of God. The tablets upon which the Ten Commandments were inscribed were placed inside the Ark of the Covenant which foreshadowed the coming Messiah.
Jesus is the Ark of the New Covenant and replaces the Ark of the Old Covenant. We have no need for the law as Jesus is the fulfillment of it.
Sheets is comparing this “Presence Movement” to the birth of Moses! He is essentially declaring that they are giving birth to a ruler, deliver and redeemer who will work signs and wonders!
They are to hide this newly birthed baby from the world for 90 days which is to correspond to the 90 days of “hosting his presence”. Then, when Sheets and company can no longer hide what they have birthed, they will set the newly birthed movement adrift to be discovered by the world in the hopes that those who accept “Moses” and love him will give him a place of prominence and influence in the world.
If the hairs on the back of your neck are not standing up by now – they should be.
“So these next 90 days at Freedom Church is for the brooding of the Holy Spirit, the birthing of “the baby Moses Movement” and the maturation of the “baby” until he can no longer be hidden from the world. But at the end of the three months, this movement will have to be exposed to the main stream of humanity who needs deliverance from Egypt’s bondage and old religious wineskins. Millions will soon be exposed to this movement on the earth. Mainstream religious and civil governments will see this new movement as the ARK of God is carried downstream to mainstream media and religious circles”
Have you even heard Jesus mentioned so far? Moses was merely a type and shadow of Christ but he represented the Old covenant and the law. Moses delivered his people out of slavery even as Jesus delivers us from the slavery of sin. Since Jesus was the yes and amen why are we looking to yet another deliverer?
This is blasphemy in the highest form. It is essentially making what Christ did on the cross null and void. It is laughable to me that they claim that this will release us out from bondage. And what is the bondage we are being released from; Biblical Christianity, of course! The law (which Moses represents) can neither save nor deliver us from anything let alone our “old religious wineskins”. This is ludicrous!
The Ark of God with a New Moses Movement will be seen in all the mainstream media before it is over! The Ten Commandments will once again be up front and center in our courts and courthouses. This movement will also reverse the abortion issue! This next move will work towards reversing the abortion issue within the next 2 years!”
The Lord gave me this word from September 11, 2008: “What was a day of disaster will now be a day of laughter! I will open the gates of heaven! Transition is on the way. Tell Pastor Dutch ASAP that this is just 2 days before the 90 days of glory will be fulfilled. Breakthrough, breakthrough is coming for, you big time! For this is the 7th year following 911. 7 is perfection and 9 is harvest of fullness and 11 is transition or stop. Over! The old is out and the new has come! Be encouraged for all is well.
It is interesting that I am writing this on September 11th 2008, a day before Hurricane Ike is to make landfall in Texas. The name Ike is Hebrew and literally means “He laughs”. It is interesting to me to note how many times Sheets refers to wind and rain in the second paragraph below.
The upcoming days in Colorado Springs will be a time to focus on and engage the presence of God as never before. To some this will be a time of impartation but to others it will be a time of greater activation of that which they have already been properly stewarding. The Lord says that from that assembly of people there will be a release of the rain of his presence that will cause the walls that have been built by man and plastered with false mortar to be exposed. The Lord says I will bring about a new deployment from this new beginning and I will establish the fact that even purpose without presence – can not bring a release of the Kingdom with impact.
For I will impact the lives of those who are consecrated unto me, and will cause them to begin to see the future with such clarity that they will not speak of that which shall come, but will speak of that which is coming as though it is now. Set your heart, for my wind and rain will come and bring you to a new day of understanding. And know this, as the winds blow and the rain comes the aligning of this nation will come about. The false plaster will be washed away and lines of demarcation will be set; those who have consecrated themselves unto me will understand that I take away to establish. For in this time I will shift the nation from a Babylonian mindset that has entrenched itself in My church, to a covenant heart that flows from the grace of My being, says the Lord. For even during the worst of times I had my Hebrew children who would not bend their knee to Babylon and it is so now- I have a people who are ready to see this nation transformed.
Sheets is literally saying that the wind and the rain will align the nation and bring us to a new day of understanding. He is also saying that God is going to take away in order to establish. So just in case any of us missed this let me recap what Sheets is actually declaring:
- The “holy” spirit visited him on June 11th and asked him to host His presence for 90 days 24/7
- The last three days of the 90 day period are to be marked with worship services. These are set to begin on September 11th 2008 which is 8 yrs after the World Trade Center disaster and 88 days after the initial visitation. The meetings will last 3 days.
- September 11th will henceforth be knows as a day of laughter
- During this 90 day period they will be birthing a new “Presence Movement” and bringing it to maturation.
- This movement is likened to the birth of a ruler, deliver and redeemer who will work wonders and signs.
- They compare this birth to the birth of Moses and even call it the “Baby Moses Movement”
- This new movement is to deliver us from the bondage of our “old wineskins”
- When they can no longer hide this maturing baby it will be presented to the world in the hopes that it will be picked up, loved and given a place of prominence.
- God is going to take away in order to establish
- Wind and Rain is going to align the nation and bring us to a new understanding.
Look folks, the plans that the New Apostolic Reformation has to unite us into one religious system under another gospel and another Christ are well documented. It is the same Dominionist heresy and I need not expound on it here. However, what is extra chilling to me is that they are announcing the birth of “their” redeemer in this new “Presence Movement”.
Do you not know that these people believe they are building a new foundation for the global church and want to establish the Kingdom of God here on earth? Although they loosely veil it, they consider themselves divine, gods, and equal to Christ! They teach that we can attain perfection here on earth. How much more “in your face” does this need to be before the church wakes from her slumber? WAKE UP! WAKE UP! We are being destroyed from within by another Christ and another gospel.
The coming “Presence Movement” is the great and final Trojan horse not an ark!
Even as the New-Agers await the “Christ consciousness” which will indwell them and lead them to the next level in their evolution toward godhood, the New Apostolic Reformation adherents are looking to the “Baby Moses Movement” to lead them out of the bondage of religion and into world domination. Of course we know that they are serving the same warmed over dish of arsenic that the New Agers have tried to make us eat. They have just sprinkled a bit of cheese on top to make it look a little more harmless to the undiscerning.

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This is coming right at us. The new age with Christ consciousness, the emerging church and contemplative prayer, the charismatics and this baby moses/domionionist stuff. All the same thing. Satan has his bases covered so to speak does he not?
This quote gave me chills “We are being destroyed from within by another Christ and another gospel.”
Several weeks ago we were talking about the NAR. I mentioned that I felt Holy Spirit say to me three times about Dutch Sheets that he was the heir apparent in this organization and that statement kind of confused me. He is taking over this mess and I think will be the spiritual pimp behind this latest movement. This is so scary!
This whole thing is appalling. If there wasn’t real spiritual power involved in these movements, they would be laughable.
I can only say 3 words about this: WOW, WOW and WOW!!! Do you think that true believers in Christ will be persecuted or killed by these people during this movement? This indeed is eerily prophetic in regards to that dream about the baby. Christ’s death and atoning work for our salvation is a blasphemous non-necessity to these people? We can love people to salvation? Dear God, help us….save us from ourselves!!!!
PJ
.. maybe you know the link;
about the ‘prophecies ‘of Pierce,
because of intern foreknowledge of weatherengineering
http://watch.pair.com/chuck-pierce.html
It’s only been 7 years since 9-11, not 8. (I think they’re calling it the beginning of the 8th year, not meaning that it has been 8 years.)
Yeah Zoe, I picked up on that right away too. But later in the article they explain how the number 8 has something to do with new beginnings and then they say that it is now the start of the 8th year since Sept. 11.
PJ,
there is something else about this ‘new move ‘,
something far more dark – all the time, they talk about
‘ the basket ‘, and ‘ the ark ‘,
but those are descriptions of devices, used by the ancient Mesopotamians, in order to ‘call up ‘ a ‘doorway ‘ to the above dimensions.
( the ‘Quaba ‘, the muslimstone, is a representation of the same device )
I ve to look into that
But be sure of the heavy doublespeak !
Have you heard about Ray Boltz PJ?
http://northwestmusings.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/gospel-singer-ray-boltz-confesses-hes-a-homosexual/
Thank you so much for posting this. Pretty scary stuff and most Christians are fast asleep.
Once again im blown away…
I told someone this evening after seeing the story Scott [at your blog] that thank God my mom isn’t here to learn of this breaking news story! She was a huge fan of Ray Boltz…
You know, we see these little [or in some cases, big] stories coming out often anymore. We think they are not affecting us personally as Christians–but put them all together and yes, they really are.
I’m sure satan has more ‘little’ surprises which he’s waiting to spring upon the Church…one at a time. Its like the Chinese water torture.
I agreed with one of the poster’s at the link you have up Scott,
sad..
You know, this whole new apostles group along with its members do not even fit the criteria of Christianity any more if they ever did.
What i read above–the quotes from Dutch Sheets, sounds more like what would come from a Luciferian cult.
‘IF” these people were ever connected to ‘the Head’ (Christ) they are not now.
Is it just me, but doesn’t this whole ‘Baby Moses’ movement talk sound like the plot for some weird horror flick?
Someone somewhere–could have been at Marian’s blog, said something about the 7 years thing–and how on the 11th it had been 7 years from the time the US was attacked. I’m not into numerology–not even bible numerology because to be frank, it confuses me.
But i do know a little about the number 7 in the bible; in as far as 7 years of blessing–followed by 7 years of famine.
The idea that this supposed prophesied ‘Baby’ and the Moses movement is coming to fruition at this time in the US….at the end of 7 years, well it just makes me think.
I’m not wise enough to understand why its causing me to ponder, to wonder if there is some connection..but i don’t think it can be just totally ignored either. Especially with an election coming up in 2 months. God allowed what happened here in the US 7 yrs ago to happen–could it have been a wake up call–one which He has waited 7 years to see if the Church or nation heeded? And now, its coming to an end…
Did u notice this;
Weird..Sheets isn’t just talking about the Church but the Nation–the government.
and this:
YUCK!
Something about the way this so-called ‘baby’ is spoken of by Sheets and “whatever” spoke to him, which he believed was God, makes me actually feel nauseated, no kidding-like physically ill. It repulses me.
Don’t forget, these are the same apostates and heretics which along with others like them [Patrica King, etc] who have been traveling around ‘opening up portals’ into ‘the heavenlies’ for the last few years …and teaching thousands of others ‘how’ to do it too.
Speculation here:
When the children of Israel were commanded when going into foreign lands to tear down the ‘high places’ it was because the people living there were worshiping other gods…They were actually, by building and going up into these high places to worship,. worshiping “the powers of the air” (which means, indirectly, satan)
Paul writes;
So we know there are dark spiritual forces, principalities in the high places-the heavenly realm today.
So, was all this false teaching [false as in totally unbiblical] about opening up heavenly portals done, to get Christians to ‘pray these portals open’ in preparation for this ‘Baby’ to enter the earth now through a spiritual portal?
EGADS!
All I can say is, somebody needs to swab the poopdeck because these guys are so full of it that it is coming out their ears! Now they are trying to birth an anti-Moses, complete with anti – ark holding anti- law. – A law that Jesus’ blood made obsolete anyhow. Boy, that’s complicating things – and getting about as far from the straight and narrow as one can get.
The nondenominational dominionism does concern me a bit though. Remember when the flds children were taken? The First Baptist Church of El Dorado were their keepers. How much more attractive would a nondenominational church, that seems to accept all manner of sin, appear in the eyes of the government, should the need ever arise to call any one of us Americans cult, terrorist, hater, or enemy combatant? And I’m so sure this unholy breed would be more than happy to ablige and step in to keep and protect our poor deluded children.
Would you look at me?? Now I am totally paranoid! HELP!! lol.
From your new link, “Dominionists on the Move”:
“For the last several decades, seasoned apostles Georgian and Winnie Banov and Kris Vallotton have been busy ‘grounding’ the Church on the firm foundation of Christ and His finished works.”
Boy can these folks contradict themselves or each other. These guys (above) say God can’t move until His church is grounded and they have been grounding people in Christ and His finished work so God can now do His next move. In the next breath, we have Dutch Sheets proclaiming that it is Baby Moses that is going to do God’s next move!! How anyone can buy any of there stuff is beyond me–although I did at one time to some extent myself.
Georgian and Winne Banov have been busy grounding people? Looks to me like they have been busy hanging out with Ben Dunn and John Crowder. Boy that’s some grounding.
Do they consider toking the Ghost grounding people in Christ?
Cheryl U the real scary thing is people just sit in pews and eat whatever food the preacher throws at them.I used to do it to. I think they like it that way! Even this crud. If all the Christians got together in one big room there would be so much mass confusion! So many false teachings, it’s brain scrambling to think about.
I think, perhaps, that Matthew Stephen beat Dutch Sheets to the punch on the whole “Moses” thing. Remember that guy going around and smiting places with his ridiculous staff? lol (my daughter, upon seeing him, blurted out,” Yeah, like, I bet he can’t even turn his stick into a snake” – had to laugh at that.)Anyway, I wonder if Matthew Stephen didn’t plant the whole Moses idea in Sheets’ head. Didn’t Stephen show up to smite the Bentley revival in april or may? – just another weird thought.
Lisa,
I forgot all about that. Didn’t he show up in Lakeland with that staff? I think you are right that was april or may. Your Daughter sounds pretty brilliant and has these guys all figured out!
Lisa,
Mr. Stephens smoke Lakeland at the Ignited church on June 7th at 4:11 pm.
Sorry ! Haha
He SMOTE it not smoked it. I have him turning into John Crowder.
dear PJ,
- I do not want to give ‘attention to darkness ‘, but I strongly have the idea, that we haven t got the slightest idea – as christians – about ‘their ‘ way of talking.
‘They ‘ use a lot of doublespeak, and YES it takes attention to Him to see whether something is right or not – but once learned, it is also very useful to recognize their doublespeak.
This ‘moses basket ‘ is doublespeak for ‘stargate ‘.
I put a link to a video; what shows the kind of symbols ‘they ‘use ( black cube, towers, Ferris wheels, all meant as ‘stargates ‘) – my point is not the video itself but the needing for us to understand ‘their ( doublespeak) language ‘.
It may (?!) become even more false – especially, when the real ‘false prophet ‘appears.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL1IZt4QuBU&feature=related
( some parts could be offensive)
Please consider the point I wished to make dear sister – the need of understanding ( discerning )
‘their ‘language…?
I am shaking and in tears. My best friend went to the last 3 days of this meeting. I just realized that this is where she went last weekend… she hasn’t spoken to me since, says she is so “overwhelmed” with the Spirit, etc, etc, that she can’t speak yet (to me, anyways). I’ve been stressed out all week, wondering what happened to her out there so finally I googled “Sept 2008 Colorado Springs 90-day prayer” and you folks came up. I’m sick with the realization that my worst fears are confirmed: my best friend has fallen into the hands of a cult-leader, an anti-Christ preacher and is being directly influenced by those whom she so vehemenently despises, Satan and his tricky minions. I cannot believe her Baptist church lead her down this road. Please pray for us all!!!!!!
Hi Anne..
Don’t forget, God is still in control!
We have the ability and we’ve been given the privilege to enter boldly into the Throne Room and approach God with our requests. Our wonderful Savior Jesus, opened that door for us..
Pray Anne…lift up your friend before the Throne of God!
Ask God to open her eyes to the truth, which is this movement and its teachers have not been sent by Him. Ask God to remove the veil of deception which has fallen over your friend’s eyes.
Don’t give up praying for your dear friend… God does answer our prayers Anne.
I would also ask God to give myself [you] wisdom on how to approach this friend with the truth. Sometimes trying to show others how they have fallen into deception, can cause them to become angry and defend the ‘deception even more.
I’ll be praying for you, and for your friend.
God bless you Anne…
Anne,
I will be praying for you and your friend.
Anne,
I am sure that we all will be praying for you and your friend. I know you are worried about what may have been “imparted” to your friend. But like PJ said, God is still in control. And I am sure when your friend’s eyes are opened, she can overcome these ole false prophets. Because they hold no real power.
May God bless you and your friend,
Lisa