Forgive the double Clement posts today but I felt this was important and wanted you to have the opportunity to read it: especially those who still argue that Kim Clement is a prophet of God. This isn’t the first time he has alluded to reincarnation and aborted babies in one of his prophetic words. The point is its totally unbiblical. Period.
January 31, 2009 – Oklahoma City, OK
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God says the praises of my believers is raising from the dust those who have been aborted.. They shall be reborn at another time, but those children who have been aborted will come back with a vengeance..
God said those that have been killed shall come back, they shall be born in another form, they shall come back in a vengeance, they shall take stock and they shall change the laws of this nation.
*Reincarnation = A Belief in the Rebirth of the soul in another body.
Belief in reincarnation is characteristic of Asian religions, especially Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, and Sikhism. All hold to the doctrine of karma, the belief that actions in this life will have their effect in the next. In Hinduism, a person may be freed from the cycle of birth and rebirth only by reaching a state of enlightenment. Likewise in Buddhism, discipline and meditation may enable a seeker to reach nirvana and escape the wheel of birth and rebirth. Manichaeism and Gnosticism accepted the concept of reincarnation, as do such modern spiritual movements as Theosophy.
What does the Bible say about reincarnation?
The concept of reincarnation is completely without foundation in the Bible, which clearly tells us that we die once and then face judgment (Hebrews 9:27). The Bible never mentions people having a second chance at life or coming back as different people or animals. Jesus told the criminal on the cross, “Today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43), not “You will have another chance to live a life on this earth.”
Many modern pagans also believe in reincarnation as do New Age movements, along with followers of spiritism. For the Christian, however, there can be no doubt: reincarnation is unbiblical and must be rejected as false.
Below is the remainder of this bizarre prophecy. Clement speaks of ‘a’ sound or sounds many times…also of a sign (which I found impossible to piece together) coming which will be attributed to coming from another planet. And of course all this [the sounds, sign, etc] is promised to bring an increase in power, signs and wonders.
Perhaps someone else can decipher it …
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I will forgive this nation’s sin. I will restore and then adore. There will be smiles once again. But as I hear believers say we forgive them I’ll give you more your daily bread, I will restore unto this nation. Your Will be done your kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven.
There is a sound that I will send into this place called My house. God says, he’s telling you. I will restore, I will give you the honor that you once held America.
God says, I will restore, I’ll not ignore the ones who stood in contempt but I will repay I will give back to this nation what they have stolen. I will restore, I will restore I’ll give back to America your former glory..
God said I’m sending to earth a sound even greater than any sound that’s ever been on the face of the earth. I’m bringing a sound to this nation that every culture will understand the language of God.
The Spirit of the Lord says those that heard the sound, when the sound was heard they were drawn. There is a sound that God has that men will begin to detect. There is a sound that shall be given and when you hear that sound advance speedily. When you hear that sound advance speedily, go quickly. For God said in that day of Pentecost when the sound came suddenly, speedily there was an opening from the heaven and suddenly advancing upon them were tongues of fire that rested upon every one of them.
God said are you hungry for the tongues of fire? Are you hungry for the language of God? Are you hungry for the heavens to open and for God to send something that we’ve never experienced?
I don’t think you believe this but you listen to this prophet tonight.
There is a sound coming and it’s coming speedily. When the people begin to detect that sound they shall advance speedily, they shall accelerate speedily. This sound shall be as no other sound coming down from the high place, coming down from the high ground, coming down from the mountains, coming down from the sky, coming down from the treasury of heaven.
The heavens are opening up and God said tonight I’m promising you that once this sound hits this nation there shall be people who have said there is no God, shall suddenly proclaim, there is a God. There will be those that will be healed that would never have dreamed they’d be healed. There’ll be a spontaneous flow of unusual miracles and a spontaneous flow of new sounds and new language says the Spirit of God. Get ready for a baptism like you’ve never had before, for tonight as the prophets gather together we declare come down, rise up, do what you have to do.
I have not forgotten the covenant. I have not forgotten the covenant. The antiquity of the covenant, the ancientness of the covenant that yet represents the dream that men had for this nation. That men equal in Spirit would stand as one and worship and honor the Lord. Where are they now? Their voices cry as a reminder they have come before me as a memorial says the Spirit of God. You are entering a time and a season of hope and restoration coming not from the politicians of Baal but coming from the prophets of God so therefore a promise has been made.
When you hear the sound that is coming to small villages and towns, amongst the farmers and the farmyards, barnyards, farm houses, ranches where there is space. I will show signs and they will say there is life on another planet but they will not find it they will not. What they will find is that there is life in another universe where Spirits of just men made perfect.
A great cloud of witness surrounds this earth. They will detect the great cloud of witness. What is this that you are saying?
They will detect the energy of a witness which is to be repeated on the earth.
They shall see signs and they shall be on large areas of acres and acres of land.
I stand in Oklahoma today and make declaration to you that they shall say that these imprints and these signs in the soil come from life on another planet and again they will have movies and books; but this time they will not be able to explain the one thing that shall be embedded in these signs shall be the cross of Calvary, says the Spirit of the Living God.
They shall try and make out like it is something else within the stars and the planets but they shall not be able to take away the crown that they see, the thorns that have been pressed.—This is a sign to you. (*I find this weird)
You’re wondering what does this prophet say tonight?
He says there will be signs in the earth and they will say it’s from another planet but God says it shall be signs that I shall send and in those places there will be a habitation of angelic visitation and a habitation of angels of the Lord and there shall be swift moves of the Spirit and they shall say let us go to the lonesome place where there are very few people. For God is shaking the earth in that place. God says celebrate, rejoice for tonight I begin this in this city, I begin it in this soil in this state and it shall spread like wildfire says the Spirit of God.
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Matthew 16:4b “A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign.”
2Thess. 2:9 “The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders.”
Matthew 24:24 “For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect–if that were possible.”
De 13:1-8 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken TAKES PLACE, and he says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the Lord your God… he has tried to turn you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you. If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known… do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him…
“Whatever is new or singular should also be viewed with a lot of caution. Over the last half-century quite a number of unscriptural notions have gained acceptance among Christians by claiming that they were among the truths that were to be revealed in the last days. The truth is that the Bible does not teach that there will be new light and advanced spiritual experiences in the latter days; it teaches the exact opposite. Beware of any man who claims to be wiser than the apostles or holier than the martyrs of the Early Church.” – A.W. Tozer
That all just gave me chills down my spine! I can see how it would be convincing – the power of repetition! I also think people like to think they’re in on the ground floor of the next great move of God – human nature to be in the know and a part of something great I guess.
I got to the bit about advancing rapidly, quickly, speedily etc etc (haha had to laugh at how many different ways he said it) and I was thinking to myself then that it wouldn’t surprise me if he got some of these people to move out of society into a place where they were alone – and then I got to the end and that’s what he was saying down there. It made me think of what happened at Waco, Texas. Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if one of these ‘men’ did the same thing and set up his own little kingdom.
This sounds like the plot from a horror movie – reincarnated aborted babies coming back to take revenge!!! As you say, it’s totally without scriptural foundation. Clement is one seriously deluded guy.
He never mentioned reincarnation and he doesn’t believe in it anyway.
Personally, its not clear what he meant, so I will not judge him until it is clearer.
He may be refering to the spirit of God taking vengence. Didn’t Abel’s blood cry out from the ground?
The statements on here seem to be extreme to me, and suggest something outside the word of God. What has Waco have to do with this?
I will point out that people on here seem to be afraid of the gifts of the spirit and the power of God. Nowhere in the bible does it say that spiritual gifts shall cease.
In fact Jeasus said we would do greater works then he did.
I was raised in a baptist home by a baptist preacher, so don’t tell me I don’t know the bible. I was always struck by the fact, my father knew a lot about God, but he didn’t seem to know him personally.
Be carefull what you say about others, because God is the only judge of men.
It seems to me that Kim keeps trying to ratchet it up a little with every “prophecy”. Make it a little more “out there” so those with itchy ears will keep listening to this stuff.
Sounds like Clement is preparing his followers for a visitation which may really be coming (although not of God). Even the Vatican recently said that there is life out there somewhere and we should be prepared to receive these supposedly friendly visitors. The Nephilim of old perhaps, masquerading as Matreiya or some other “ascended master”, the false prophet of Revelation?
This guy is loony!
Read this portion and make sense of it if you can?
“….They shall be reborn at another time, but those children who have been aborted will come back with a vengeance and shall raise up hell. For the powers of darkness do not know what they did. ”
Hmmmm, let’s see, babies are aborted, ok, got that part. But what? These aborted babies come back with a vengeance and “shall raise up hell”.
Oh, I get it. They are mad at God for being aborted in the first place so they come back reincarnated and raise up hell so more babies are aborted so they too can come back reincarnated and raise up hell too. Geeesh, wait long enough and the earth will be populated with reincarnated babies aborted raising up hell!
Well I am not so sure that is what Jesus meant when He said this:::>
Mat 24:21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.
Mat 24:22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.
Hell is raising up alright, but not because of mad aborted babies, reincarnated, are raising it up!
It will be because the devils are mad at the Christ, His Church and raise up a terrible persecution against God’s Elect! No worries. God is actively working all sides of the fence and causing this to happen so as to bring an end to all this madness, once and for all!
Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
Rev 21:2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God.
Rev 21:4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.”
Rev 21:5 And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
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Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price.
Rev 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,
Rev 22:19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
Rev 22:20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!
Rev 22:21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all. Amen.
I will restore and then adore
Doing the rhyming Johnny Cochran stuff is standard prophetic procedures these days. Of course, biblically speaking, all honor and glory goes to the triune God. So to make this word work, one must subscribe to the MSoG heresy as well.
Anytime a “prophet” prophesies something like “Thus saith the Lord, listen to the words of my prophet.” he is setting up a non-judgeable prophesy.
And further, if it does not come to pass, the “prophet” can blame it on the people who did not heed his word, or responded with doubt and unbelief.
Kim Clement is among the best of the worst.
Oh boy – and to think: Clement is coming to the swamp known as Houston this very month! May God have mercy.
It does.. You know this isn’t the first time he’s prophesied about aborted babies returning in other bodies. I read another similar ‘word’ from him a year or two ago. Its reincarnation, however you want to slice it.
Yes i got that impression too Vicki…
Does anyone think it odd that this weird bizarre prophecy was spoken in Oklahoma, days before it was hit with deadly tornadoes? Perhaps its a coincidence…but maybe its not.
Also, what did you all make of this:
Just goes to show we are walking in the end days . much more whackiness to come many more like him out there and coming still. never been more imperative to know God and not just of Him. Thy word is truth. go and find out why!
-William
Amen Will..
You know Will, there have always been false teachings within the church and false teachers–but what is evidence to me that we’re in the closing days of the church is now, so many within the church, accept them both! I don’t know if its apathy [on the part of Christians] or blindness–maybe both. But it seems very few care about these heretical doctrines being promoted.
[...] Clement recently published another one of his ‘words’ that came forth in Oklahoma City in late January, [...]
we have become complacent and illiterate concerning scripture. this is one way things are being accepted many think if they say it it must be true or at least it appears that way.
God have mercy on us.
-william
I am new to this site and to Kim Clement. I am thankful and grieved at the same time to read all that I have read on some sites about him.
My flesh and heart want to believe that he is on the up and up. That his heart is for the Lord and Him only. That his desire is to point people to Jesus. To lead the lost, encourage the down and out and give hope to those who have strayed or have become hard hearted. Such as I have been finding myself becoming since a not so recent church community flesh-mess.
I JUST found him on late night tbn- not my usual time to be up. I have sensed in my spirit different “personalities” that tbn allows to host air time -have not been ummmm….let’s say somethings just not right. BUT there ARE those who have hearts for the Lord and His work. Kenneth Copeland, Jentezen Franklin…who I do look for. And there are a few others. What drew me so drastically to him (Kim Clement) was not his word of prophesy, (which I barely paid attention to)…but his song. His music. For the first time in a long time I felt drawn and I mean dddrrrraaaawwwnnn like a bug to the flame drawn….to the Lord. A desire to leave the past behind and get moving again stirred up in me. I taped it on dvr and have been soaking in the short songs…..feeling like my heart had a heartbeat in song for the Lord again.
So my hubby and I go on line to find his web site to see if he had music cds and we found you. And other sites warning of him. My heart cried-no. NO!!!! How do we know YOU are on the up and up and not some bogus web site out trashing God’s people. How do I know YOU are not “satan’s” mouthpiece? I mean that with all due respect. So I kept reading. Not sure to trust this site and it’s postings. Really. How would the average Joe find out if what you’re saying he said–He REALLY said? Or if the opinions you say he holds-he really holds? And the tangled web of trusting no one continues….until…as I am reading and re-reading your info on him and asking the Lord to give me wisdom not to judge prematurely …to know if you are right or pointing fingers to destroy someone God is using…..my heart is getting heavy as I realize I must hold him accountable to scripture and not to what I am feeling in my heart toward his music or even the passion he projects to have for the Lord.
Slowly, realizing, I think I have almost been doooped, but still scrolling down I glance to the right and see a picture of a man whom God blessed with great ability to put his heart and Love of the Lord into his music.(talk about passion!)whom I greatly admire and look forward to meeting one day,Mr Keith Green. Scripture is unfailable, undeniable, unchangeable.
Keith knew that. I’m sorry Kim doesn’t seem to.
Secondwind…great post.
I understand your hesitancy to jump on the bandwagon when a website is pointing out questionable [or outright bad] doctrinal teachings and/or beliefs by those we sense have helped us personally…
I always try to include links in any posts i put up so that you the reader, can go and see where i found things included in my posts–especially when these things are unbiblical teachings the person in question has spoken or teaches through their books and materials. Anyone can get on a blog or website and call another a false teacher or prophet–the proof should always be offered to you the reader, not just my opinions.
amen. And that is not always the easiest thing to do, is it? But we have to go by the word, no matter what our emotions are trying to dictate to us. Its easy for any of us to hear something which stirs the emotions, and find ourselves ignoring what the person is ‘actually’ saying–teaching–etc. because they make us feel better.
Hey…glad you located the Keith Green clip! I was a huge fan of his after i was saved in 1980. His being taken home was a loss to the church, but it was his time–apparently he had fulfilled his call while here.
You can still read many of his teachings online here: Lastdaysministries
God bless and thank you so much for sharing…
Secondwind, You should also research Kenneth Copeland and 99% of the “personalities” on tbn including Paul and Jan Crouch. They all love money and take scripture out of context. Most are into occult practices(giving them nice Christian names)such as “slain in the spirit”, “holy laughter”, “angelic visitations and heavenly travel”.
Keith Green was an inspiring Christian. I also still love his music. I lived near his ministry headquarters and attended his memorial service. It was a very sad time.
I recently had my eyes opened to all of the apostasy in the church and I had to repent of all of the occult practices and false doctrines and idols I had allowed into my life under the instruction and leadership of so many of the so-called prophets, apostles and ministers. I’m starting over with Lord because I, too, was duped for a very long time.
Sorry but it doesn’t read that way Ken:
pretty clear what Clement said. And its 100% unbiblical
I see no evidence of that… no one, as far as im aware has expressed being afraid of the gifts of the Spirit. And yes i believe they are for today.
What those like Clement [and other false prophets] do, is turn some Christians away from the gifts. Sadly these believers come to wrongly believe because a group of false prophets, false and/or faked signs and wonders, and extremism, is that this represents the gifts of the Spirit.
Pointing our dangerous false doctrines and teachings, and warning others of them, is the job of the Church. We are the Church.
oh, come on ken, read what he said. He IS talking about reincarnation.
-not a cessasionist, BTW.
Kim Clement is from another planet…