Since this whole debacle came to light and hit the Internet, especially the blogosphere, I just plain didn’t have any desire to post about it, LOL.
I mean, what was the controversy? A young contestant, Miss California believes (rightly) marriage should be between a man and woman and said so, and predictably, one of the judges who is not only homosexual but a homosexual activist, used the opportunity to slam and ridicule the young woman publicly. So what’s new? Granted it was extremely ugly, but both were being who they are, and also predictably now, both sides of the homosexual culture war are milking it for all its worth.
I read today that a conservative group is now planning to use this young woman, Carrie Prejean, in a new $1.5 million ad campaign funded by the National Organization for Marriage: (see Miss California to star in TV ad from conservative group)
What good this ad and her appearance will do in ‘winning’ the culture war on homosexuality and/or ‘gay marriage’ is debatable: Though I see it accomplishing nothing.The line has been drawn and identified: you’re either on one side of the issue or the other, already.
Anyway, Paul Proctor, who is always controversial, has a post up today which was interesting. His criticism is pointed toward those (Christians) who have raked Carrie Prejean over the ‘hot coals’ of hell for her even appearing in the Miss USA Pageant.
THE MISS CALIFORNIA CONTROVERSY
By Paul Proctor
Well, Miss California’s flogging line seems to have grown a little over the last few days, but not for the reasons you might think.
The first one to step forward and berate Carrie Prejean for her biblical view of marriage was, as most of us now know, a homosexual judge, followed by other pageant officials who largely benefit from the “pro-gay” crowd and agenda. Then along came a few singers and celebrities who chimed in for their daily kudos from the liberal media.
And now, joining the chorus of critics are some rather angry Christian feminists – and I don’t mean liberals in the church either.
I realize that the term “Christian feminist” is considered an oxymoron in most conservative circles, and that feminists within the church are usually thought of as liberal; but I believe they also exist among conservatives and bible believers as well.
From what I’ve seen, they generally keep it in the closet until opportunity knocks and they’re forced to come out swinging for womanhood in the name of Christ.
They are the militant busybodies, backbiters, gossipers and control freaks among us that may not be as skilled at dressing up as some ladies around the church house, but they are very skilled at dressing down those who are, especially when their self-esteem needs a little boost – all with a feigned purity and “Christian zeal” that serves to cover whatever deep-seated envy, jealousy and resentment they may have toward others, that, for whatever reason, get more attention, recognition and praise than they do – especially from masculine men.
Those who tend to focus primarily on the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes all too often overlook the pride of life – especially their own…
Well, I have to admit that when I saw the clips of the pageant and at her home Church in San Diego, I thought it strange of her to be so un modest and yet so courageous in her modesty.
This whole affair does nothing with regard to “establishing” who the Truth is and what He might have already said about the plethora of things one could address as slivers in my brother’s or my sister’s eye when we have these great big old beams in our own to deal with first.
I do not buy into Proctor’s point of view, knowing what I know from experiences I have had and the outcomes, some gracefully peaceful and some not so gracious or peaceful.
The Church should stop compromising and cohorting with the enemy in their realm and stick to our own Kingdom turf, Righteousness, Peace and Joy in the Holy Ghost.
Simply put, we are not of this world and a lot of our “brethren” yet to be of us and our Kingdom, who right now are only of this world, worldly, may now have had opened to them undue criticism and abuse from the world because of this whole affair and they may be struggling, like we all, to allow Christ the fullest measure of Himself in our lives, our “inner” man.
Yes, the Calling and Election are without repentance. And yes, we first must be a lost sheep or lamb before we can count ourself a found one, “EUREKA!”. But I would highlight something Peter said, seeing Proctor pointed to him in his article, to make my case for the shame I feel for this young girl who thought it ok to dress up and down and go for the crown, Miss America, in a not so nice but naughty forum found so publicly:
1Pe 1:6 In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials,
1Pe 1:7 so that the tested genuineness of your faith–more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire–may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
I want you to reread those Scriptures and note well two words in there. Those words are: “if necessary”.
I believe, even though we are called and elected to be a member of the Holy Christian Church, living within us the glory and power and anointing of Grace and Mercy, sometimes we bring a lot of trouble upon ourselves simply because we have not heeded the instructions of Our God Ordained and Given Leaders and their example to the flocks, such as those words of Peter and these Words of the Apostle Paul, even though they were addressed to a man, they carry equal instructive caliber for the woman too:
2Ti 2:19 But God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.”
2Ti 2:20 Now in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver but also of wood and clay, some for honorable use, some for dishonorable.
2Ti 2:21 Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart as holy, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work.
2Ti 2:22 So flee youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart.
2Ti 2:23 Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.
2Ti 2:24 And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil,
2Ti 2:25 correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth,
2Ti 2:26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.
From where I am sitting it just does not seem to me that an American Beauty Pageant is where these Words of God are to be played out, especially when we can address the issue of a woman and her inner beauty from these verses too:
Pro 31:30 Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain, but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.
Pro 31:31 Give her of the fruit of her hands, and let her works praise her in the gates.
Neither Carrie Prejean, the Miss USA Pageant, or the pageant’s judges in a position to be spokespeople for biblical/godly standards of anything really…
A beauty pageant is somehow promoting wholesome Christian values???
“Do not lust in your heart after her beauty or let her captivate you with her eyes…”
“Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.” Proverbs
Not sure I would want to champion Carrie Prejean as the pro-marriage goddess figurehead of the Religious Right or the GOP…
God bless the feminine physical form, but that in no way automatically makes the young woman the moral compass of a society that does worship beauty & idolizes youth, vigor, physique…
[sigh]
She sure can fill out a bikini, but please, do not put her on a pedestal like any other point-person elevated to a place of artificial prominence to champion a movement, cause or religious/political agenda.
Lord have mercy…
Too late–they already are.
Its one reason i wasn’t interested in posting about it, for i saw it coming..
Michael, i don’t either. But i don’t buy into the stuff many of the blogs have been saying about this young woman either–painting her as a Jezebel, not because they know her, but just based on the contest.
To me, it is what it is–or was. Just a beauty contest which gained more publicity then normal because of the gay marriage issue being brought up. (which im sure was a preconceived move on the part of the judge)
Its those (Christians) who have decided to take stands publicly, not on the gay marriage issue but on the issue of the young woman herself, who have blown it all out of proportion.
What about the murder material ?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1173776/Gay-Tory-frontbencher-faces-police-probe-Miss-Universe-death-threat-live-TV.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/5228384/Tory-Alan-Duncan-defends-joke-about-killing-Miss-America-contestant.html
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/mp.under.investigation.for.threats.to.homophobic.miss.california/23191.htm
http://www.inspiremagazine.org.uk/news.aspx?action=view&id=3330
David, its just another sign of the crazy times we’re living in…
Demons are more active and obvious today–we should expect this type of open hatred. In my opinion it will only increase in the days leading up the the return of Christ.
When I first saw this clip I thought what is a Christian doing in a beauty pageant, but then when I saw her get ripped apart by the certain members in the gay community, the media and organisers of this pageant, I geuss I went into defence/protective mode (I am a mum to a daughter). I remembered the parable of the lost sheep in the Book Of Luke, I think Carrie wondered off into the world and the wolves (satan)were waiting. I will continue to pray that she receives wise Godly advice and is returned to the flock with a repentant heart. I pray God shows her the danger involved for the young Christian entering the world of secular entertainment.
“The Church should stop compromising and cohorting with the enemy in their realm and stick to our own Kingdom turf, Righteousness, Peace and Joy in the Holy Ghost.” Amen Michael
Pj I was championing Carrie at the start and I am still praying for her but this article from Tony the Lawman helped me look at this situation a bit differently. Emotion can cloud our judgement especially if you are a mum to a daughter.
http://thelawmanchronicles.blogspot.com/2009/04/miss-california-persecution-or.html
I still admire her courage and conviction,nobody could understand what it would be like to be standing up there in front of millions of people and be asked such a loaded question. I don’t know the reason why Carrie entered the Miss U.S.A pageant, in light of the scriptures regarding modesty, Holiness and righteouesness. Only the Lord knows.
Thanks Mel…
I like the lawman chronicles blog–
True, only the Lord knows.
It’s a sad day when an organization spends over a million dollars to promote a campaign which spreads hatred and bigotry.
I gather she doesn’t have the right to express her opinion. I gather she can be called any name in the book, made fun of, and now even a feminist made a sexist remark in her name. Just lovely. I don’t care what she thinks. She’s still a woman and I don’t support anyone who calls her a *****, a ****, or a feminist who made fun about her breasts on tv. Just lovely. This has gotten out of control. Look at the bigger picture.