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*UPDATED* Around the blogosphere: The Manhattan Declaration


Links to a few posts concerning the Manhattan Declaration.

“The ultimate goal of the church biblically is not the public good, but the glory of God in the proclamation and advancement of His gospel of sola fide.
God, not the audience, is sovereign.

The “public good” is political speak for tolerance. The gospel, however, does divide; it is a stumbling block, offensive and foolishness  for those who are perishing” (Steve Camp)

“..support for The Manhattan Declaration would not only contradict the stance I have taken since long before the original “Evangelicals and Catholics Together” document was issued; it would also tacitly relegate the very essence of gospel truth to the level of a secondary issue.  That is the wrong way—perhaps the very worst way—for evangelicals to address the moral and political crises of our time. Anything that silences, sidelines, or relegates the gospel to secondary status is antithetical to the principles we affirm when we call ourselves evangelicals.” (John MacArthur)

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7 comments on “*UPDATED* Around the blogosphere: The Manhattan Declaration

    • Good grief Yemi!

      I had no idea they were seeking to obtain “prayer” reimbursements through the health care bill–how bizarre is that!!!?

      Though i don’t consider Christian Science a part of the ‘church”, this sure high-lights the reason why separation between Church and State is needed.

  1. PJ, Wickle and I also added our voices.

    • Thanks Joel. I updated my post to add links to both posts!

      By the way, you might want to check out John MacArthur’s article on the topic. (link was also added).

      I was glad to read there are Christians not signing it–including some Christian leaders.

  2. The foundational problem with this approach of signing declaration and all this culture war stuff is that it fails to recognize the default nature of man and that only the gospel of Christ can remedy the situation. No government/politician no matter how “pure” it is in terms of “traditional values” will cure that which ails man.

    • That’s true Yemi.

      There is another problem for me personally about signing something like this–besides the obvious one’s…

      It has to do with oaths and covenants between men.

      I don’t read anywhere in the new testament where we as Christians are to covenant with anyone but Christ. Or to give our allegiance too…

      We’ve all, if around long enough, have come upon churches and church leadership that demand of their congregation the signing of “covenants” or oaths to the particular church and/or its leadership.

      I’ve never done it because to me personally, its wrong. Religious cults practice this as well…

      This is one important thing about these type of declarations–they promote this type of “tie” or unseen covenant between those who sign, even as in this instance when its plainly an ecumenical group who are involved.

      Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil. Matthew 5: 33-37

      I don’t need to sign a public “manifesto” stating i am a Christian. My covenant with Jesus Christ is the only declaration needed, and hopefully my fruit bears witness to those around me daily that i follow Christ.

      Yemi, imo this is nothing more then a political “declaration”. One written up by men who out of fear of the loss of political clout, needed to make their voices heard. And sadly they come across poorly, imho.

      There are signatures on this which would have stopped me from signing it from the get-go, even before i read it.

  3. Wow,

    I hope I too can collect 20 or 40 dollars for my prayers. I love to pray. I wonder what I could gain by commiting to praying without ceasing?

    Ok, it was just jest!

    Seriously, I believe Jesus has already paid the price in full for His Bride to Pray without ceasing!

    Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits who are before his throne,
    Rev 1:5 and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood
    Rev 1:6 and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

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