Perverted: Deviating from what is considered right and correct: Of, relating to, or practicing sexual perversion.
Reprobate: to condemn strongly as unworthy, unacceptable, or evil: A morally unprincipled person. One who is predestined to damnation. Morally unprincipled; shameless.
Adam, (thanks brother) posted a couple links to video clips tonight under the post, Evander Holyfield allegedly hits Wife over Tithing. You may want to check the other 2 out after watching this one concerning a damnable heresy taught by Creflo Dollar.
Creflo Dollar is in my opinion, a heretic of the worst kind; the person who posted this at youtube refers to him as a perverted reprobate. And folks, I agree.
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME, is all I can say–not concerning Creflo Dollar, who is completely deluded, but to the Church leaders and voices today who sit back and don’t PUBLICLY rebuke this heretic and others like him. Guess they’re all too busy composing mandates and doctrines in hope of ‘saving America’ from the present Administration, fighting against health care, and joining loony’s like Glenn Beck in his search for ‘socialists, fascists, and communists’ hiding behind every rock inside American boarders.
In the meantime, while their focus has been on cultural issues outside the Body of Christ, the Church they claim to love and represent has been over-run by perverts who teach such blasphemy as,
“when a Christian has sex with their husband or wife they are actually having sex with Jesus”
This isn’t some pastor teaching this garbage to 20-30 people on a Sunday Morning in some unknown corner of America (which is bad enough) …its someone who appears on TV every day of the week, reaching untold millions–and has for years.
I’m through ranting. But my disgust with America’s “so-called” Church leaders has recently reached a point in which 99.99% of all of them make me sick. I wouldn’t believe anything these so-called leaders tell me, and I sure wouldn’t follow them anywhere. They have deserted their post and are no longer overseers,
“Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them” – Acts 20:28-30
"If the professed convert distinctly and deliberately declares that he knows the Lord's will but does not mean to attend to it, you are not to pamper his presumption, but it is your duty to assure him that he is not saved. Do not suppose that the Gospel is magnified or God glorified by going to the worldlings and telling them that they may be saved at this moment by simply accepting Christ as their Savior, while they are wedded to their idols, and their hearts are still in love with sin. If I do so I tell them a lie, pervert the Gospel , insult Christ, and turn the grace of God into lasciviousness."
pj, no masking your indignation anymore. It’s coming in loud and clear, and I feel the same way: I won’t trust so-called “leaders” and ones who don’t promulgate the false stuff themselves are too dissipated with wordly pursuits to be worth following as shepherds. Jesus is our Good Shepherd and my prayer is that He will provide His shepherds–ones who have His heart and spirit– for the little flocks.
Vicki i don’t know if its indignation or just plan disgust.
My sister called me this morning after visiting the blog and seeing this. As a new Christian she just doesn’t understand. Its hard to explain to young believers.
Saints,
“Creflo Dollar pastors World Changers Church International in College Park, Georgia. He teaches a believer is God because Jesus said it. [12. Little Gods Do Their Thing Today, T. 1:01-1:29] When Jesus spoke of ‘ye being gods’ He was referring to believers judging with the same authority He received from His Father (John 10:34-36). Jesus was not saying those believing in Him will become God. There is only one God (1 John 5:7). It was the serpent who told Eve the lie you shall be like God. Yet, Dollar teaches Adam was God. Obviously, God created Adam and Eve as humans. Both sinned and were spiritually separated from God. This is why the Father sent His only begotten so all believing in His Son may be saved for eternity (John 3:16).
“Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.” (2 John 1:9)
President of Trinity Broadcasting Network, Paul Crouch, believes there is no distinction between himself and God. [13.Ye Are Little Gods False Trinity Teachers Speak, T. 0:47-1:15] He tells his viewers he is a little God. Clearly, this man is being seduced by deceiving spirits. God never created little Gods to fellowship with. Jesus promises overcomers He will be their God and they shall be His son (Rev. 21:7). This isn’t saying we become God. When the Father sent His Son, God became man (John 1:14). Man will never become God.”
The above is an excerpt from my new book. TIL ETERNITY. Tragically, for many saying they love God, the doctrine of Christ doesn’t matter anymore (2 John 1:9). It makes no difference that Dollar and Crouch openly deny Jesus as the only begotten Son of God. Those trusting in the Manifest Sons of God heresy are being deceived by enemy. Millions are not enduring the doctrine of Christ anymore because they are lusting after their own desires (2 Tim. 4:3-4) Yet, Jesus did say His coming for us would be like the days of Noah. Is this a salvation issue? Absolutely! Til, Paul paulbortolazzo.com
Sounds like the word of faithers are morphing into the manifest sons of God, or something like that. I’ve noticed that all the popular places these days are getting more swept away by the false doctrine they teach. Some don’t actually make these claims, but their WOF teachings still say it, as do their followers who claim they have the authority and power to speak things into existence. Just that alone is a claim to be God.
Glad I’m out of it!
Thanks Paul.
I don’t see what Glenn Beck has to do with this news story at all. Glenn Beck is brilliant, not a looney and has a lot of insight into history and government. If you actually watch a number of his programs, or read one or two of his books, you would see that.
I read this blog to keep up with what is going on in the church, not hear unfounded criticism of a decent, conservative and humorous spokes person who stands up for American values of liberty, freedom and who also values the Christian faith and speaks up about it.
Being aware of what is going on in our country’s government and being involved does not disqualify a person as a Christian (many of the founding fathers were Christians and their faith was in God was in the forefront of the writing of the Constitution, etc.)
The loonies in my opinion are the heretics we are seeing right before our eyes in the church and the people who follow them.
Please keep your trash talk about Glenn Beck and other public figures limited to the proper venue. Don’t try to sneak it into a totally unrelated topic.
Glenn Beck is an anarchist,
ANARCHIST: An advocate of or a participant in anarchy: an agitator: a resister, sometimes by terrorism, to organized government: a person who seeks to overturn by violence all constituted forms and institutions of society and government, with no purpose of establishing any other system of order in the place of that destroyed: a person who promotes disorder or excites revolt against any established rule, law, or custom.
If you didn’t like what i said about him above then you really won’t like these previous posts,
http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/promoters-of-anarchy-in-america/
http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/the-melt-down-of-glenn-beck/
http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/glenn-beck-and-dwight-schrutes-conspiracy-about-onstar/
http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/glenn-beck-teetering-closer-to-the-brink/
http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/my-beef-with-talk-radio-part-i-glenn-beck/
And know this, i stand by every word i wrote.
Sounds like you believe i ‘trash-talked’ someone you admire and follow. You won’t get any apology from me…my blog is about truth–even when it steps on peoples toes. And just so u know, this is the correct venue.
Doublegrace,
Glenn Beck is a committed Mormon who denies Jesus as the only begotten Son of God, denies the trinity, denies an eternal lake of fire for the wicked, believes only lds church is the only true church, believes God the Father was once a man who had sex with Mary and they had Jesus! All of the above are heresies (2 Pet. 2:1). In no way is this man a Christian. All nations are under the control of Satan. When Jesus returns to rule over the nations (Rev. 12:5, 21:9-10) only then will there be true peace. Paul
PJ, I’ve listened to Glenn for almost 5 years off and on, just to get an idea of who this guy is and what he was all about. I started listening to him when he was on CNN when I was in Hollywood. Then, certain things sounded good, he was and is right on certain political issues, but something always bugged me about him.
Then I found out that he was mormon, then he came out in the months following Obama’s election as more of a resister, much in the same like as what you’d find in the so called “local milita”. But don’t kid yourself, this guy has a HUGE following and some of these people are dead serious in promoting and protecting his ideas.
Personally, Glenn gets it wrong on so many levels, the answer will always be Christ, but, he won’t say that simply because he doesn’t believe that. But you need to remember, Glenn deals in the political arena, we don’t, or at least we shouldn’t. I’m more of a Rush Limbaugh guy myself, at least Rush makes it clear that in a free society one should be able to worship as they should. But it’s interesting to see how far Glenn has come and where he will go, some are saying he might run for the U.S. Senate.
Just my thoughts anyway.
I agree with you 50% PJ but those who continue to set there sunday after sunday cheering Dollar on should take 100% of the blame. They keep Dollar in the dollar’s, Your know that Beck falls into the same category as one who would preach hate or a false doctrine. The problem with those who would trust any thing he says is just…well
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2Ti 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
PS, DoubleGrace if you really knew Beck for what he is you would know that 1. he works for the media 2. when did the media start telling the truth? 3. Beck is a master of disguise and a Mormon who pushes a left right paradigm for the Illuminati who would like for nothing more than to have chaos hit this country, Because out of chaos comes order… their brand of order. And you can bet their is some kind of number that goes with it as well. Sorry y’all I couldn’t help my self
I’m a bad boy! )-: but bring it on!
Good for you PJ, thanks for saying it like it is about Glenn Beck. He is an absolute disgrace.
That Christians are following Mormon’s like Glenn Beck really illustrates your point, PJ, in respect to the current unholy alliance between religion and politics. I am convinced that it is precisely out of this sort of dynamic that the Antichrist is going to emerge. It is a dynamic of rejecting the legitimacy of church and government when one doesn’t agree with their leadership. It is pure anarchy and antinomianism wrapped in a religious garb. It is people who refuse to accept the truth and are being given over to a lie by God. It is the devil appearing as an angel of light bringing peace and truth. It is destruction at the doorstep. The scriptures and the saints have much to say about this. I quoted a bit of it in a comment on the preceding topic related to the proliferation of fake “patriotic” movements that encourage anti-government behavior.
PJ, you’re welcome. And I agree that nationalism has become a huge distraction for many professing believers in this nation. It’s evident that many are more passionate about conservative politics than about proclaiming the message of the gospel and upholding Biblical truth.
Creflo really is as bad as they come these days, especially with the amount of influence that he has, and the size of his audience. Just when I think I’ve seen it all from him, another video clip appears with even more abominable garbage. Thank God that His kingdom can’t be taken down or shaken even by a thousand deceivers like Creflo.
I will pray for you, PJ, regarding your conversations with your sister, that God will give you much grace in explaining things like this to her; and for her growth as a new believer. May she (and all of us) “grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen” (II Peter 3:18).
Glenn Beck is NOT an anarchist. He recently aired a program where he explained step by step the differences between: socialist, communist, Marxist etc, conservative, anarchist, libertarian, progressive, etc. Anarchism is mob rule; NO government.
I’m sorry pj but you are way off on this one. Glenn Beck has said REPEATEDLY he is for LIMITED government, the way is was instituted according to the constitution. Therefore, if you are for LIMITED government and the upholding of the Constitution, which is what Beck proclaims, you are NOT an anarchist, but a Libertarian.
Mormon or not, I’ve never heard him say anything opposed to the principals of the Constitution.
Per my previous comment. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the perversion in the church!!!!!!!!
p.s. As someone said above, Beck is about government, politics and media. I would also add to that: making people aware that our hard fought, blood bought (by the founders etc.) freedoms are constantly being eroded. Something I figured out LONG BEFORE I ever heard a single word from Glenn Beck. Cherishing and protecting our constitutional freedoms, does NOT make us bad Christians. Neither are those freedoms limited to Christians only.
Besides,I’d rather listen to Beck, than all of left wing, anti-God, progressive drivel that comes from the rest of the media.
p.s.s. I do not FOLLOW Glenn Beck. I learn from the research on history and government he presents as well as doing my own research. Just like I do with my walk with the Lord.
p.s.s again. PJ, Just re read to answer to me. I’m all about truth too. I don’t have my own blog though. I re-emphasize: I do not FOLLOW Glenn Beck as if he were my fearless leader and I am offended at your implying that. I do admire him for bringing certain things to light concerning our national history and government that most people are ignorant about.
You and I have had some very good conversations in the past and have lot in common. I am really disappointed at your casual “smack-down” toward me.
Love,
DoubleGrace
DoubleGrace, i see you are still very upset concerning my stand on Glenn Beck.
I’m truly sorry it has upset you, but im not backing away from the truth; Beck is an anarchist, fear-monger, and manipulator. He has and is fooling many people, but in particular, he has pulled the wool over the eyes of many Christians. I would be remiss if i did not point that out–which i have in previous posts. Frankly, i believe its even more important to point him out as dangerous now, as recently he has taken to quoting scriptures on his program. He has learned who is audience is and is now playing to them…
An anarchist (contrary to Beck’s definition) is one who is an ‘agitator, resister, sometimes by terrorism’. Beck uses fear as a tool by which to terrorize and mesmerize his listening audience into falsely believing we have been invaded (since the previous president left office) by communists, Marxists, etc etc etc.
He has helped to resurrect a new age of McCarthyism.
*See post and video: The New McCarthyism*
I’ll not go on because the links i posted cover much of the Glenn Beck topic. I hope you read them.
DoubleGrace, please understand. My blog is where i share what God shows me. I do not expect everyone who reads here to like or agree with my thoughts.
As far as the OP, its true; many Christian leaders are so busy composing mandates (the Manhattan declaration, as one example) and listening to fear mongering, anarchist-extremists, like Beck, the Church has been over-run with not only false teachers but open blasphemers such as Creflo Dollar, and in the post put up last night, T.D. Jakes. And that is only two of many.
That is the truth, im sorry to say.
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
Creflo Dollar is as sick in his comment as Carol Arnott was when she claimed that Jesus gave her the best orgasms. These people are exactly as this man in the vid claimed – perverted reprobates.
Mkayla,
Creflo Dollar pastors World Changers Church International in College Park, Georgia. He teaches a believer is God because Jesus said it. [12. Little Gods Do Their Thing Today, T. 1:01-1:29] When Jesus spoke of ‘ye being gods’ He was referring to believers judging with the same authority He received from His Father (John 10:34-36). Jesus was not saying those believing in Him will become God. There is only one God (1 John 5:7). It was the serpent who told Eve the lie you shall be like God. Yet, Dollar teaches Adam was God. Obviously, God created Adam and Eve as humans. Both sinned and were spiritually separated from God. This is why the Father sent His only begotten so all believing in His Son may be saved for eternity (John 3:16).
“Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.” (2 John 1:9)
PS: Sent your book yesterday. You’ll get it by Sat. Paul
You’re right about Glenn Beck a anarchist! That’s really fits him by his views on his radio show and TV show and it’s really turns me off. Thats on of the reasons why I no longer listen to his radio show nor his watching his TV show! LOL