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TBN co-founder Paul Crouch dies at 79


From CNN

Paul F. Crouch, co-founder of the Trinity Broadcasting Network, died Saturday at age 79, according to his website and the network’s Facebook page.

“We are grateful for the life of this amazing servant of God. Please pray for the Crouch family during this time,” said the announcement.

No further details on the televangelist’s death were immediately available.

On November 5, TBN said Crouch fell ill and was hospitalized in Texas in late October. He returned to California for treatment of “his heart and related health issues,” a network spokesman said. Crouch received a pacemaker in 2012. TBN, based in Orange County, California, bills itself as the most-watched faith channel in the United States.

Kenneth Thomas, a commenter on the TBN Facebook page, said of Crouch: “He was a great blessing to the body of Christ and to the world!”

Crouch, a native of St. Joseph, Missouri, began his broadcasting career in the 1950s, working at commercial stations. The pastor worked for the Assemblies of God in Burbank, California, during the early 1960s, operating its TV and film production.

In 1973, he and his wife, Jan, founded TBN, according to his website biography.

Among the TBN programs they hosted is “Praise the Lord,” known for its ornate sets and diverse programming. The network has a substantial international following; Crouch appeared on the show from Madrid, Spain, in October.

A network tribute posted Saturday afternoon said Crouch was a “television visionary” committed to spreading the gospel.

*A second news item concerning his passing can be found at The Christian PostTBN Founder Paul Crouch Dies at Age 79 After Chronic Heart Problems

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30 comments on “TBN co-founder Paul Crouch dies at 79

  1. I guess he finally found the real Jesus, not the fake one he advertised for. Too bad it was to late for him. His tv network was just a prostitue for anyone who wanted to make money off the sheep.

  2. So sad he died not knowing God. His life proved he loved this world and its treasures more than God. He promoted a false gospel and another jesus. God gave him time to repent and he never did. Maybe this will open the eyes of his wife and the rest if the false teachers on that network. Creepo dollar and the rest of the trash.

  3. TBN will continue to do much damage to the faith and accommodate heretics long after his passing. I predict his passing will be used in the future for raising money.

  4. Quite frankly, I really wonder what WILL happen to TBN. Paul Crouch WAS TBN. I deeply suspect that there is sufficient corruption sewn through the whole organization that without Paul around it may well just self destruct like the Baker empire did. After all, empire built on money tend to end badly in these sorts of situations. I suspect there will be a LOT of infighting and struggle for control on the part of those left behind. As for Paul himself, I prefer not to pass judgement on him or on his life’s work. Those are for God to judge. We do not know his heart. Perhaps as the scripture tells us, everything he did will be burnt up, but he will make it in. We just don’t know those things and its better not to speculate. But for sure the stuff TBN was made out of was very combustible. Hopefully Paul knew the grace of God in spite of it all and hopefully the clamber and chaos that will surely follow will bring Jan to repentance. TBN … “Christian” entertainment pretending to be ministry … what a waste of resources. Thank God he uses and works through even these weird things.

    • I’m with you on speculating on Paul’s final destination.

      As i posted at the Christian Post, back in the very early 1980′s i can say TBN was a blessing AND great help to me as a young believer. We only received it on a station (this was before cable) out of New Richmond, a few hours a day, and the quality was terrible: fuzzy. But as a new believer i loved that i could sit and watch, even a fuzzy screen, a few hours a day and hear the word taught and preached. Back then there were a few good teachers and preachers who appeared regularly on the network. Of course over time the network changed, as did the lineup of teachers. The old ones (like Dr. Walter Martin) disappeared and were replaced by teachers and preachers who brought false doctrines and outlandish ‘garbage’ to the program lineup. I stopped watching it all-together after that occurred.

      I did always believe the premise of a network which offered good solid bible teaching/preaching, was a good one. And perhaps Paul’s original intentions were good, honorable. But, like so many others who go astray, he fell into deception….much of it, self-imposed.

      We know our God forgives…so hopefully this man had time to look back over his life’s work, and repent.

      That’s really all we can hope for or say…

    • I really think a huge part of the problems encountered by these mega ministries have to do with two things. First would be money. I believe that the person who feels called to a ministry like TBN and who serves as its guiding light and director should NEVER be allowed to TOUCH the money OR control its use. All of that stuff should forever remain in the hands of widely trusted people who are NOT personal friends of the one in charge. That is a concept that was totally violated by the TBN empire. The second thing has to do with friends. We can all pretty much tell the difference between “holy” people who may in some ways be repulsive to us, but whom we deeply respect, and “carnal” people, who are great fun to be around and tend to be VERY charismatic and seductive, but for whom we have little respect. Both of these types of people can be found in the the “church” and both types can exude a great sense of religious fervor and conviction. I really believe that Paul and Jan chose to hang around the wrong crowd and between that and money, it led them to destruction, to a point that their enemies were even in their own family. Its a human tragedy. I am sure he didn’t start out that way, but he sure didn’t end up in a way that glorified his Lord. But now its all over. At least for Paul.

    • Money, personal glory, and in the case of TBN, nepotism, all contributed greatly to the changes, all bad, which took place over time within the TBN empire.

    • George you don’t think TBN is a Non-Prophet organization do you?

  5. New Richmond had a station? I grew up about 5 miles away (Saltair) and didn’t know that. Isn’t it funny that I had to move 250 miles away and get on the internet to find out what was going on in my own backyard.

    Deaths of those whose walk with Jesus seemed blurred are difficult for me. How do I pray for the one who passed? What can I pray for? How do I pray for those left behind? And other questions always come to mind.

    For some of you the answers to those questions are clear, but for me things aren’t that easy.

    Jesus said, “…with God all things are possible”, so I always pray for what we think is impossible. “Lord forgive Mr Crouch and use his death to bring light to his family and followers. Amen”

    • Hi Steve…

      Yes, we received TBN in the greater Cincinnati/Northern KY area from a New Richmond affiliate. “Think” the station was channel 43 if i recall correctly. Boy was it fuzzy, ahahaha. That was long before TBN went nation-wide. Late at night, when the Praise the Lord live program aired, the picture would be a little better, but it never came in clear.

      Deaths of those whose walk with Jesus seemed blurred are difficult for me. How do I pray for the one who passed? What can I pray for? How do I pray for those left behind? And other questions always come to mind.

      Well, after one has passed on, the time for praying for them has passed also. All we can do is pray for those they’ve left behind, the family and friends, asking God to comfort them in their time of grief.

      I’ve not kept up with the Crouch’s or TBN, as far as that goes–only seeing an occasional story concerning the network once in awhile, or some scandal being reported. But from what has been reported since news of Paul’s death, it appears he had heart problems for some time, so (his) knowing this, we can hope he made things right with God before passing on into eternity.

      I remember when a brother-in-law of mine was found dead many years ago. He had never accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior and his death grieved me terribly. While getting dressed that evening to attend a ladies meeting at my church, the Spirit of God spoke to me, saying, “Jaunita, let the dead bury the dead…you get on with living”. I’ve never forgotten that Steve.

  6. George – I would be shocked if all those heretics who depend upon the golden goose of TBN would let it die. In fact I continue to believe that his son and wife will step in and take his place with a great amount of in house support. Watch for some kind of telethon which uses Paul’s legacy as leverage for fund raising.

    • Ys i agree–TBN, unless God steps in to do otherwise, won’t be going anywhere. What also won’t surprise me is if we see Jan re-marrying in the near future.

  7. Death is such an unnatural thing for us.

    Now that we have it it behooves us who are sensible to it to heed certain parts of the Words of Him Who has the power to destroy it and “it” being “death”.

    Here’s a couple ancient writings I have in mind saying that knowing in each of these things exist within us, even in Mr. Crouch when Paul Crouch Sr. was with the living:

    Eccl: 3:10 I have seen the business that God has given to the children of man to be busy with.
    11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also, he has put eternity into man’s heart, yet so that he cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end.
    12 I perceived that there is nothing better for them than to be joyful and to do good as long as they live;
    13 also that everyone should eat and drink and take pleasure in all his toil—this is God’s gift to man.

    And Job 33:4 The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
    5 Answer me, if you can; set your words in order before me; take your stand.
    6 Behold, I am toward God as you are; I too was pinched off from a piece of clay. …

    14 For God speaks in one way, and in two, though man does not perceive it.
    15 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falls on men, while they slumber on their beds,
    16 then he opens the ears of men and terrifies them with warnings,
    17 that he may turn man aside from his deed and conceal pride from a man;
    18 he keeps back his soul from the pit, his life from perishing by the sword.
    19 “Man is also rebuked with pain on his bed and with continual strife in his bones,
    20 so that his life loathes bread, and his appetite the choicest food.
    21 His flesh is so wasted away that it cannot be seen, and his bones that were not seen stick out.
    22 His soul draws near the pit, and his life to those who bring death.
    23 If there be for him an angel, a mediator, one of the thousand, to declare to man what is right for him,
    24 and he is merciful to him, and says, ‘Deliver him from going down into the pit; I have found a ransom;
    25 let his flesh become fresh with youth; let him return to the days of his youthful vigor’;
    26 then man[fn] prays to God, and he accepts him; he sees his face with a shout of joy, and he restores to man his righteousness.

    God has put eternity in our hearts. Each one of us thinks no differently until we start to experience death by some experience.

    And as I suspect with Mr. Crouch, the pains that consumed his body ( after all he was 79 years old when he passed) he was frequented with the thought of death as a way of putting them out of him? And as we read there in Job 33, “…23 If there be for him an angel, a mediator, one of the thousand, to declare to man what is right for him,
    24 and he is merciful to him, and says, ‘Deliver him from going down into the pit; I have found a ransom; …” at the moment of his passing if an Angel was there, THEE ANGEL, the “Mediator”, Mr. Crouch passed safely to paradise where all God’s Elect pass to at death.

    • at the moment of his passing if an Angel was there, THEE ANGEL, the “Mediator”, Mr. Crouch passed safely to paradise where all God’s Elect pass to at death.

      We can only hope this is true Michael. I do.

  8. How many who read this site know of someone that was a guest on TBN….? Have they ever shared how astonsihed they were by the elitism that was exuded there? I know of one such person and I will tell you that they swore they would never be on it again. Don’t need to go into details but suffice it to say, apparently the road was not paved with “gold” as in this particular man of God expressed, and made a decision not to partake any more… I remember when it forst went on the air, I lived in Bakersfield California at the time and we received it through a local TV station. I too at the time enjoyed it. I did read someplace recently that Jim Bakker did have something to do with helping it get started. Not sure if that is true….

    No matter wht we may feel about the program, I still understand what it is like to loose a family member and I just pray that God purpose will be accomplished in all of this…

    • From what i recall IWTT, the Bakker’s and Crouch’s actually started the original program (Praise the Lord) together…perhaps the TBN network itself? I know they use to be close friends and partners many many years ago. Michael would probably know if im correct concerning the network.

    • Wikipedia has the story on this:

      “Teaming with their former youth pastors Paul and Jan Crouch, the Bakkers created the “Praise the Lord” show for the Crouches’ and Bakker’s new Trinity Broadcasting Network in California. While that relationship lasted only about a year, this time the Bakkers retained the rights to use the initials PTL and traveled east to Charlotte, North Carolina, to begin their own show, The PTL Club. Their show grew quickly until it was carried by close to a hundred stations, with average viewers numbering over twelve million, and the Bakkers had established their own network, The PTL Television Network (also known as PTL-The Inspirational Network).” – Wikipedia

    • Thanks George! I knew i’d recalled reading years ago that they all had been involved in the original Praise the Lord program. So, the Bakkers were actually the creators of TBN? That i didn’t know.

    • Check out this video from xxx church.

    • Interesting, though im not sure i know what xxx church is, :-)

      Who are these guys Steve?

    • Those guys have a ministry for porn addicts and the porn industry. They actually buy space at porn industry conferences and give out tract, Bibles, etc.

    • Really? Did they actually appear on TBN? I got the sense of it being a joke, but it looked as though they were at the TBN studio.

    • They were on but the show didn’t air. Not sure why but I would guess it’s because they are so irreverent. They aim their ministry at those who would be into Howard Stern so as you can guess they aren’t quite the type that TBN would put on. They are slick or well dressed. They’re just guys on a mission.

    • As I read it, they were co-creators with the Crouches. As I see it the two ventures were afflicted with similar corruptions. Jimmy Bakker got a bit carried away with it and flamed out rather dramatically as a result. There are some indications of a rather dramatic repentance on his part and I hope above everything that they are true. Paul Crouch, on the other hand, tended to be a bit more professional and somehow managed to keep everything offensive hidden away out of sight during the time he was alive. For sure, as Henry correctly asserts, those left behind will try to keep the money tree green to the best of their ability, but the sharks have been circling for a LONG time now and the enemies are plentiful. My perception is that just about anything could pop out of the rotting corpse and bring this paper empire to its knees. I just don’t have any degree of confidence that Jan or the younger generation can continue to make this pig fly. Unless, of course, there is some radical repentance, which, of course, we all would hope for. With all of Paul’s faults, at least he had some sort of driving spiritual vision, and I will be surprised if that every got passed down to the next generation. That is what corruption usually works through Christians. It destroys their children spiritually. Perhaps there is a remnant in the Crouch family that can pull this off, I actually hope their is, but I really doubt. Once everything becomes about money, power and pleasure, things can go upside down pretty quickly in these sorts of organizations.

  9. “Quite frankly, I really wonder what WILL happen to TBN. Paul Crouch WAS TBN.”

    That is what I’ve been wondering since PC.Sr.’s death, & when I typed that Q into a search to see if there was any newer news, your blog showed up. Truly PC.Sr. WAS TBN as you say. I think it will only get worse than the Pentecostal-mania it was already infected with.

    About 2 years ago (don’t quote me on the exact timeframe of these events) when PC.Sr. was supposedly very ill, it was reported that he at that time made son Matthew Crouch the “heir” as boss of TBN. About the same time the other son, the more quiet one, PC.Jr., abruptly left TBN & went to work for another Christian network (I forget which one). There was a letter online at that time by PC.Sr. stating that PC.Jr. was no longer at TBN but no reason given. Then a few months after that (the same year I think), the news of the lawsuits & allegations came out by PC. Jr.’s daughter, Brittany, that mother/Jan & the other son/Matthew had been misusing up to $50 million of donor money for personal things. The lawsuit stated that Matthew “threatened” Brittany by tapping a gun in his lap when they were all having a private conference about the whole mess.

    I think it was maybe NYTimes who asked for a quote from PC.Jr., & all he would say was that having to split with his family was the hardest thing he’d ever had to do.

    His other younger daughter (can’t think of her name), it was also reported in the lawsuits & allegations by Brittany, that the younger girl (age 13 at the time) had been on a trip with Jan to Atlanta/TBN, and the girl was raped by a TBN employee on that trip, & that Jan hollered at her that it was all her fault! (now THAT got my ire up!) So if PC.Jr. left on account of that alone, I admire him tremendously for sticking up for his daughter, & I would also depart from my family if my brother threatened one of my kids by “tapping his gun.”

    Of course the TBN lawyers turned around & said it was Brittany & her husband who were the crooks who had stolen $$ from TBN & supposedly that’s why they then made the allegations/lawsuits, etc. etc.

    After the Brittany revelations were made public, Matthew Crouch began what I would call a huge “schmooze” campaign of his father on their daily “Behind the Scenes” show & PTL, etc. Matthew was incessantly “buttering up” good ol Dad. It was sickening actually. They even stated on the air, “Nobody messes with TBN & gets away with it!” obviously referring to Brittany (videos of that show were on youtube, etc.)

    All of the above info was reported in secular media & Christian News type sites. And the lawsuits were also available online. I read quite a bit of them.

    There was an unrelated lawsuit vs. TBN by a former elderly employee that settled around the time all this was happening. That older male employee alleged that PC.Jr. & Brittany used to come through his dept. (the computer dept. I think) & mock him for being elderly, etc. basically alleging that they were intending to get rid of all the “old employees.” I have no idea, of course, if PC. Jr., ever said such things, but that would not be very nice! The other son, Matthew, was alleged (I think it was in Brittany’s lawsuit) to have “flashed himself” to maids/cleaning crews.

    So as you can see, a big mess still going on “behind the scenes” at TBN. And to answer the original question at the top as to what WILL happen to TBN? I always thought the quieter son, PC. Jr., would be a better “boss” for TBN if the elder PC ever died. But maybe the quiet ones are the ones that have to be watched, I surely don’t know. But I don’t trust the “schmoozer son”/Matthew either. He’s a big talker, talks more than a girl! He’s the one who had the movie company & buys into the “we must save the culture by being part of the culture” nonsense. Some years ago a person left a comment on one of my old blogs saying they predicted Matthew Crouch would be the antichrist because TBN had bought a station in/near Jerusalem. They were serious but I laughed, of course, saying Matthew was a Nobody in the Grand Scheme of Things. I still do not believe he would ever be the antichrist. However, he has a LOT of power now with the TBN Empire with Dad out of the way. What he does with it remains to be seen. He seems to like $$ (per the lawsuit), so I wonder if Matthew would ever sell TBN if Jan died?

    And after what I read in the lawsuit re Jan denigrating her granddaughter re the rape, oh brother! Not a more cruel thing could ever be said to a rape victim! What kind of grandmother would say such a thing?

    Bottom Line: Jan & Matthew are in charge now, with Matthew as the top dog. A scary thought indeed! Even though Dad Crouch would go on his rants re “heresy hunters” & all that nonsense, he still seemed sincere re his relationship with the Lord, & to be the one with the brains as to how to run the place but maybe not so smart after all leaving Matthew in charge.

    Visions of the Schuller Empire disintegrating comes to mind…

    (Feel free to edit anything you feel is not appropriate, but I was following the whole mess via news reports as they unfolded the last 1-2 years. And I actually felt very sad when I heard belatedly that PC.Sr. had died. 79 is not that old, really. He was a “steady face on the screen,” I guess, even though I don’t subscribe to his version of Christianity.)

    • It will be interesting to watch and see if anything changes. After thinking about it though, i have a hunch things will stay the same…and the network will keep on as before. At least in the near future. I personally would love to see it sold and taken over by a group which would turn it into a real, true Gospel promoting network: one which highlighted reputable preachers and teachers who preached and taught the word of God.

  10. “i have a hunch things will stay the same…”

    You’re probably right. The TBN “M.O.” is pretty well entrenched.

    I would love to see more “classroom style” Bible teaching, word for word, verse by verse, chapter by chapter. Powerful sermons, without begging for money, would also be wonderful. The Church Channel, a subset channel of TBN’s, is actually a “better” channel in that it is nothing but sermons, so you have a better chance of MAYBE hearing some scriptural truth, at least on certain subjects. JCTV, on the other hand, another TBN subset channel for youth, teens, young people, is, imho, a “worldly nightmare” of horrible rock music, etc. (but then I’m “old,” so maybe it’s just me).

    Lastly, I always wondered why TBN (or any OTHER “Christian Network”) never thought about having a subset channel that was ONLY the Bible, running 24/7/365, such as Scourby’s narration of the KJV. Just set it to Play Indefinitely, Genesis to Revelation, & start it over again from the beginning, ad infinitum. That is what the world needs, nothing but the Word! (I have the Scourby DVD which I ran on my TV-DVD-Combo set for 3 years & 8 months non-stop, round the clock, but the DVD-player finally croaked this Summer. ;) So it would be great if there was a TV-Channel that ran/aired the same non-stop so you could just flip on the tube any time day or night & tune in to the Word being read to you. Now THAT I would be willing to donate for!

    • Now THAT I would be willing to donate for!

      Yes! What these networks do not understand is if they would change their formats to real bible based (only) material and programs, there would be an audience which would support it. Perhaps not at the rate of money they take in now…but it would be supported. Perhaps that is one of the main problems: they are not looking for offering these type of bible teaching programs in order to help feed the body of Christ because they see these networks as a business…one which is there to make $$ over and beyond what is really needed. In other words, they see it as a business in order to support their life-styles.

      By the way, i came across a recent article concerning the on-going battle at TBN:

      Court Battles Continue Between TBN and Televangelist Jan Crouch’s Granddaughters

      quote,

      In the past two months more than 1,000 pages in motions and memorandums have been filed as Trinity Broadcasting Network and televangelist Jan Crouch fight allegations by granddaughter Carra Crouch of TBN covering up her rape.

      In November Carra’s sister Brittany Crouch Koper and her former attorneys at law firm Davert & Loe requested that Koper’s lawsuit be dismissed. The joint stipulation of dismissal used in this lawsuit may be the result of an out-of-court settlement.

      Koper countersued her former attorneys and her lawsuit alleged that they were attempting to “discredit Ms. Koper and her husband, Michael Koper, who had been terminated for refusing to engage in the massive financial schemes that had been divulged to Ms. Koper upon her promotion to the head of Trinity Broadcasting’s financial department.”

      TBN also sued Brittany and the outcome of this lawsuit has been delayed by the Kopers filing for bankruptcy.

      These lawsuits followed a split in the Crouch family which surfaced in 2011. TBN Vice President Paul Crouch Jr and Brittany were removed from their positions following a dispute involving TBN’s board of directors which included Paul’s brother Matthew and parents Paul and Jan Crouch.
      Carra sued TBN, her grandmother Jan and TBN attorney John Casoria alleging that they failed to report her rape to the police. Carra alleges that the California’s Child Abuse and Neglect Reporting Act required Jan to report this crime.

      Last year TBN’s attorney Colby May informed the Orange County Register newspaper, “Trinity is stunned to learn of the latest allegations being made by Carra, coming more than six years after her initial report.”

      On November 15th Carra’s attorneys filed a 311-page motion to force TBN to answer questions that are part of the discovery process. A second motion, 152-pages long, was submitted to the court to force TBN to provide documents to the plaintiff.

      The motion alleges:

      “Defendants wish to engage in one-sided discovery in which they are solely the ones taking the depositions, issuing the subpoenas and submitting discovery requests. Defendant has issued at least twenty (20) subpoenas, issued a mountain of discovery requests to Plaintiff and the Cross-Defendants, and has taken at least twelve (12) depositions. Defendant has failed to produce the documents regarding the sexual assault upon the Plaintiff on the basis allegations of privilege and as theft of Defendant’s file on her assault, which was created in April 2006 when the assault was reported to Defendants.”

      TBN responded to the motions by counterfiling 2 memorandums and 2 motions of opposition totalling more than 700 pages.

      The Superior Court of Orange County shows 587 docket entries involving this case. Such a lawsuit is costly to litigate.

      Carra’s case is scheduled to go to trial on July 21, 2014.

      Source

  11. “…because they see these networks as a business…”

    That definitely seems to be going around – literally. Some years ago when Senator Greeley (sp?) was investigating “televangelists,” I heard Benny Hinn say that he makes “no more than a corporate CEO, & why shouldn’t he?”, or words to that effect.

    Slaughter of the Sheep blog had a funny-titled article about some other preacher back in October, “Poor Little Rich Pastor”: http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2013/10/24/poor-little-rich-pastor/

    Thanks for that detailed recent update re the TBN lawsuits. I totally missed it. Whew! Sounds like the TBN-side is hunkering down refusing to turn over requested documents in the discovery process (no surprise). Unless they are padding the judge on the side, I don’t see how they can get away with that. I suppose they will just try to drag it out for 20 years & hope the PC.Jr. side of the family gives up from stress & exhaustion. I hope Carra has her day in court, just to put that Colby May to shame. Six years is nothing for rape victims to “find their voice.” It takes some people 20-40 years! And many NEVER do. God bless her! I hope she is doing better.

    • “no more than a corporate CEO, & why shouldn’t he?”, or words to that effect.

      Its amazing isn’t it, that Benny Hinn or any of the heads of these ministry’s -’Businesses’ believe it’s normal that they should be raking in a salary comparable to your typical CEO. If nothing else shows how they look at their “ministries” as nothing more then a business, that statement does.

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