Pat Holliday posted this today under the topic; Angels, Bentley, The Dudley Outpouring, and ‘Civil War’, and I thought it was so interesting that someone may want to read it also. A lot of good comments get lost and not seen, when they’re under older threads. If you’ve read many of the teachings coming from this new breed of mystics, man-made apostles and prophets, you’ve most likely read where they use Smith Wiggleworth as their ‘example’..Every time I’ve read where they point to him, its made me cringe. I’ll post portions of this below as Pat left it, but with a few things highlighted by me…you can read it all at the link:
This is from a friend of mine in England.
Shows the difference in Smith Wiggleworth’s message and commitment to Jesus and the crazy New Mistics… He said I could offer to you for your blog.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:25 PM, jonathan stuart-brown wrote:
Smith Wigglesworth has achieved Protestant Pentecostal Charismatic sainthood and icon status among the new Nicolatians (Peter Wagner, Bob, Jones, John Arnott, Bill Johnson, Patricia King, Todd Bentley, Trevor Baker, Stephen Strader, Julie Anderson, Rev Dr Mark Stibbe, Rupert Foxwell, Gerald Coates, Ken Gott, Paul Cain, Wendy and Rory Alec of God TV, Che Ahn, James Goll, Kathie Walters) seeking to trade on his name and reputation.
Smith Wigglesworth denounces these evil doers.
He always preached two hours on sin and sincere repentence and The Suffering, The Cross and Resurrection of Jesus Christ BEFORE he would ever pray for miracles and healing.
Often he preached longer on repentence.
He never put the healings and miracles before The Cross of Jesus Christ. It is all about The Miracle Maker not the miracles, he insisted. Focusing on miracles is sin. You worship Jesus Christ not the miracles.
He always preached from The Bible.
Bible passages were read in full, unedited, in context and there was no cutting out one verse in isolation to build a false doctrine on.
All hymns (new or old) had to be checked by Christian doctrine.
He always said The Lord’s Prayer at every service.
All prophecies were short, to the point, tested and always rejected if they did not line up with scripture. The Bible teaching and Bible reading dominated and prophecy was fringe if in his meetings at all.
MOREOVER, he condemned prosperity preachers. He condemned the health, wealth false Gospel.
He condemned the false teaching that you give to get on earth. He emphasised giving is a sacrifice which will probably only be rewarded in Heaven. But the short term pain will lead to longterm eternal gain….not instant riches.
He condemned people who elevate prophesy, supernatural experiences, new revelation over The Bible.
He condemned people who elevate miracles over The Cross of Jesus Christ.
Smith Wigglesworth condemns Lakeland, Greedy God TV, Todd Bentley, Peter Wagner, Bob Jones, Patricia King, Gerald Coates, Julie Anderson (Chancellor of Wagner Leadership UK), Rick Joyner, Bill Johnson, John Arnott, Trevor Baker, Che Ahn, Rupert Foxwell, Sharon Stone).
Smith Wiggleswoth condemned drunkeness and fornication which are the real deal among these Nicolatians.
Smith Wigglesworth did prophecy that the people who know The Spirit must know the Word or else it will be to NO AVAIL.
Smith Wigglesworth repeatedly warned of False Prophets and False Teachers.
Smith Wigglesworth warned that Judas was taught by Jesus Himself SO beware people bragging of who their family is or who their teacher was. Pedigree is no guide as heretics start inside The Church and have no excuse for their chosen path.
Smith Wigglesworth turned down riches and wealth. He wanted his reward in Heaven.
Smith Wigglesworth ironically in his day was less of a draw in The UK than Donald Gee, Howard Carter, The Jeffrey brothers and others in the early AOG and Elim movement. They all did countless healings and miracles. Real miracles.
However, they all denounced prosperity preachers. They regarded the real cake as the salvations and the healings as the cherry on top. They all preached The Cross and Repentence for two to three hours BEFORE prayer for miracles. They all emphasised they needed to daily repent and daily seek God to avoid the pitfalls of sin.
They specifically rejected the WORD FAITH, LATTER RAIN false doctrines.
The British Church before World War Two was still the dominant tone in the English speaking world. They expected ministers to be poor and humble.
After World War Two, America’s cultural dominance extended to The Christian Church Leadership.
British Smith Wigglesworth’s Christ centred faith deplored and denounced anyone charging for The Gospel, for healing, for prophecy and miracles.
They would have never believed that people would be charged to enter any Christian service (even a Conference or Seminar).
They believed if God guided, then God provided.
If God did not guide, the meeting, trip, conference was “sinful”.
God raised up Smith Wigglesworth. May He raise up similar ministers in The USA’s urgent hour of need.
Praise God for the true honest voices in America like the grandson of Billy Graham who called Todd Bentley a “False Prophet with a Capital F” long before his fall, when the way to get money and popularity was to cheer Bentley on.
Praise God that there are millions of true Christians in The USA and in Canada. Let them reform the church invaded by Bodysnatching False Prophets and Nicolatians. Let them PROTEST against The Peter Wagner evil empire.
We need new Protestants. New Luthers against Peter Wagner.
Smith Wiggleswoth condemns Joel’s Army, Marketplace Ministers, The New Apostolic Reformation, Global Harvest, The Elijah List, Lakeland Ignited Church, The Five Fold Ministry, Latter Rain, William Branham, Manifest Sons of God, Dominionism, Shepherding, Extreme Prophetic, RevivalFires in Dudley, Rick Joyner, astral projection, seeking Angels, God TV, Wendy Alec’s false prophecies and Angel worship, Rory Alec’s greed and lust for world domination, Wagner Leadership and all Peter Wagner “hub”, “stargate” and “open heaven” organisations.
The Nicolatians got in The Pentecostal and Evangelical Churches in the 1970s and enslaved wonderful Christians and took control of every choice, confiscated cheque books, decided if and who they could marry AND refused to let them fellowship with other believers in any other meetings and churches. They bullied, intimidated and terrified wonderful Christians and destroyed beautiful fellowships.
When The Holy Spirit exposed them and their submission-shepherding tyranny came to an end, they came up with The Toronto Blessing and its children which is demonising The Charismatic Church.
They still want to enslave and rob you. That is what Nicolatians do. That is why God warns about them in the Bible.
Moreover, if they believe that if you give, God is forced to give you back in this world a thousand times what you give, THEN they should sell all their mansions and jets and give to the poor and sick people. They will be a thousand times richer !
Robin Hood of legend stole from the rich to give to the poor. They steal from the poor to give to themselves”.
An elderly female colleague of Smith Wigglesworth said: “I knew immediately Todd Bentley was not right and demon-possessed.
He has led millions of people astray and this counterfeit anointing has demonised them. Many are commiting suicide and having breakdowns.
But clearly he had a huge number of helpers.
We know now that Toronto is demonic. Before some of us were naive about it. We are open to difference and keen on unity. But now we know it is demonic.
The Marketplace Ministry is prostituting Churches.
A business is a business. A Church is a Church. Only greed can confuse them.
You do not market or sell Jesus Christ for profit. That is JUDAS mentality. You do not sell The Holy Spirit. That is Simon Magus.
But these people must come. The Bible says so.
Many False Prophets will arise and MANY WILL FOLLOW THEM.
Lakeland was prophecied….by Jesus Christ. He prophecied false Prophets !
So repent of your sin, cling to the feet of Jesus Christ on The Cross, await your reward in Heaven, watch for The Second Coming….and pray to be worthy of The Rapture. Lukewarm Christians will get The Tribulation.
This is what Smith Wigglesworth says.
Prosperity teachers, Word Faith, Latter Rain, Peter Wagner….well Smith Wigglesworth would have kicked them out of any town he was in”.
People want God to move.
But God tests people. Love is patient. Jesus is building His Church. Patience and persistence are characters he wants.
Lakeland was The Golden Calf. Sincere Christians passionate to worship could not or would not wait for the real move of God. They face death not life for disobedience. God demands patience for Him. Repent.
Toronto was Ishamail. The Nicolatians persecute real sincere Christians.
But Jesus will still build His Church and The Gates of Hell (and Nicolatians) will NOT prevail against it….