What must the body of Christ in other parts of the world be thinking, while watching and reading about the actions taking place here in America right now by the Church…a better question is what does our Lord think?
Yes I’m ashamed…
Please read these quotes. Not all of them pertain to the photo above–in fact only 2 of them were found posted under this story (there were mega-pages): the rest were a random sampling taken from 100’s of comments under another news story (below) yesterday concerning letters sent out out by at least 2 of our rightwing’ Christian political leaders.
-They profess to be Christians but they are not true Christians. These people don’t have the capacity to love. They hide behind a false Christianity.
-I can tell you that if Jesus does come back the first ones he throws in the pit will be these losers
-When I observe the stupidity of these people I thank god I’m still an atheist.
-What Would Jesus Do? Do you think He’d lie, smear, scare, just for a political agenda? I think not.
-Is THIS the new evangelical movement! Gee, why are so many people leaving Christianity?? Why is it so hard to recruit new young Americans to Christianity anymore? Maybe it’s the hate and hypocrisy?
-These aren’t Christians. These are religious extremists
-These are the people who push folks away from the church. I wonder if they think that is what Jesus would do.
-The Christian Right continues to act in unChristian ways.
-If Jesus came down today and saw the American churches today, I think He’d want to do the same thing to these people as he did to the moneychangers and turn over their voter guides and mailings and and yell — “My House shall be a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of corruption and politicians!”
-Today, I got an email from an old roommate that said “October surprise–for real” bringing up Phillip Berg and the birth certificate thing. What was remarkable is that throughout the email, it even said that there was a chance that these things weren’t true, but if enough people could read this “well-done 10 minute video” that maybe enough doubt could be cast to swing the election. That video had 2.8 million views already–and supposedly it was just released within the last week. I just had it–Slander is a sin. Lying is a sin. But evidently these evidently are sins they can justify. Some–not all–of today’s evangelical political activists are certainly looking more like money-changers than Jesus.
-It’s astonishing that people who describe themselves as “Christians” can be so filled with hate. They quite clearly, have not really understood the word of Christ. It’s tragic how driven by fear these people are. To preach fear in the name of Christ is a crime against everything the Bible ought to represent. It is in the worst traditions of the Church.
-Gotta love where Christianity ended up…
-And once again I find my early turn to atheism confirmed as the correct choice
-They are a very scary bunch. When I go to church I don’t want to hear about politics and when I look to my political leaders I don’t want to hear about religion.
-The irony is it’s hard to tell fundie Christians apart from radical Muslims
-These so called “Christians” are what the bible refers to as “vipers” “snakes”, “sheep in wolf clothing.” I am still trying to understand who is the Christ they believe in. I am certain it is not the biblical Christ who told us to love others.
-Where is the outrage from the true Christian community? From everything I’ve ever read or been taught about Christianity, you love people. I am not a religious man myself, however, I am a man with morals and I find it extremely offensive when I see the great hypocrisy of these far-rightwing “Christians”. It is their book and their 10 commandments and if they hope to persuade others to follow the teachings of these, they had best lead by example. Actions speak louder than words. As your bumper stickers advise me and the rest of the world, “ASK YOURSELVES, WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?” – For the record , I am a 51 year old white American male.
This is what the lost think about us…about the Church. THANK GOD most of them don’t blame Jesus.
Terrorist strikes on four American cities. Russia rolling into Eastern Europe. Israel hit by a nuclear bomb. Gay marriage in every state. The end of the Boy Scouts.
All are plausible scenarios if Democrat Barack Obama is elected president, according to a new addition to the campaign conversation called “Letter from 2012 in Obama’s America,” produced by the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family Action.
The imagined look into the future is part of an escalation in rhetoric from Christian right activists who are trying to paint Obama in the worst possible terms as the campaign heads into the final stretch and polls show the Democrat ahead.
Like other political advocacy groups, Christian right groups often raise worries about an election’s consequences to mobilize voters. In the early 1980s, for example, direct mail from the Moral Majority warned that Congress would turn a blind eye to “smut peddlers” dangling pornography to children.
“Everyone uses fear in the last part of a campaign, but evangelicals are especially theologically prone to those sorts of arguments,” said Clyde Wilcox, a Georgetown University political scientist.
But the tone this election year is sharper than usual and the volume has turned up as Nov. 4 nears.
Steve Strang, publisher of Charisma magazine, a Pentecostal publication, titled one of his recent weekly e-mails to readers, “Life As We Know It Will End If Obama is Elected.”
Separately, a group called the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission has posted a series of videos on its site and on YouTube called “7 Reasons Barack Obama is not a Christian.”
The commission accuses Obama of “subtle diabolical deceit”..
But among the strongest pieces this year is Focus on the Family Action’s letter which has been posted on the group’s Web site and making the e-mail rounds.
Among the claims:
- A 6-3 liberal majority Supreme Court that results in rulings like one making gay marriage the law of the land and another forcing the Boy Scouts to “hire homosexual scoutmasters and allow them to sleep in tents with young boys.” (In the imagined scenario, The Boy Scouts choose to disband rather than obey).
- A series of domestic and international disasters based on Obama’s “reluctance to send troops overseas.” That includes terrorist attacks on U.S. soil that kill hundreds, Russia occupying the Baltic states and Eastern European countries including Poland and the Czech Republic, and al-Qaida overwhelming Iraq.
- Nationalized health care with long lines for surgery and no access to hospitals for people over 80.
The goal was to “articulate the big picture,” said Carrie Gordon Earll, senior director of public policy for Focus on the Family Action. “If it is a doomsday picture, then it’s a realistic picture,” she said. (full article at link)
This is nothing but fear mongering folks. Sowing seeds of fear instead of encouraging faith in God…
I read Peter Wagner’s fellow NAR member, Stephen Strang’s Report two weeks ago and thought about posting about it-but decided not too–it was so inflammatory and was written to generate fear. Plus it was filled with speculations, half truths and out-right lies. Thank the Lord a fair portion of the 300 or so Christians who left comments under it, agreed:
I never thought I’d be ashamed of something that came out of Charisma Magazine founder Steve Strang . . . but I am now. I am a faithful bible-believing follower of Jesus Christ. The fear-mongering and borderline racism, the over-the-top alarmist rhetoric of this article is absolutely reprehensible.
Again, I am ashamed…
The lost look on, as well as do our brothers and sisters in Christ, around the world, and we allow these apostates to represent us. I wanted to leave a comment in protest under one of the news articles yesterday in which some of the sad comments above were left–but you know what folks, I didn’t know what to say. I had no defense to make: for myself personally perhaps, but not for this group of Christian right-wing political leaders. It seemed useless to say, “Hey, we’re not all like this!”…when it seems so many are following after and believing these radicals.
They are smearing our testimony, the Gospel, and the name of Christ…all for personal agenda.
Some folks have asked if I have had any dreams, visions, or words of prophecy concerning the USA and her future lately. I will tell you plainly that I have not had any, however, I have had very strong premonition as to the disastrous direction in which ‘Political Evangelical Christianity’ is headed in the USA.
That direction is none other than ‘Fascist Christianity’ in which some ‘Christians’ use unbiblical Christianity as means to decimate all who are seen as enemies… and thus enemies of the USA.
… it is serious and unless Evangelical Christians in America realize and discern the insanity being preached on her pulpits in the name of “Take America Back”, “One Nation Under God”, “Christian President” and many other ‘Political Christianity’ narratives and clichés, Evangelical America is headed towards days of gloom and darkness with lots of blood that might be placed at her feet.
They say History keeps repeating and those who do not learn from it will keep repeating the same mistakes. It is not the first time that Christianity has been hijacked and used by individuals for political and militaristic purposes.
Those who would take what I am saying as being insignificant should ask themselves why Christians participated in the Crusade wars in the Dark ages and went on a killing spree across Europe all the way to the Middle East to eradicate Islamic expansion and “Take Back Jerusalem” from the ‘infidels. Is it not interesting that today we have Christians who are driven with similar zeal..
Interestingly when the Crusaders arrived in Jerusalem, they turned against the Jews whom they claimed they had come to rescue from Moslem Expansionists. The Crusaders slaughtered the Jews claiming that they were responsible for the death of Jesus Christ. The threat then was Muslim expansion and the threat is the same today according to the eyes of America’s Political Evangelical Christianity…
One would wonder why Christians participated in the burning of witches and the Great Inquisition in the dark ages… What led to Christians turning against other Christians who did not agree with them? How in the world could a Christian who is supposed to preach the Love of Jesus Christ turn to acts of Hate and Murder?
In the 20th century, Christians would again join Germany’s Adolph Hitler in his quest to exterminate the Jews. One wonders why the Church during Hitler’s reign did not speak out against the oppression of the weak, poor, and the Jews. What happened was that the Church aligned itself with the politicians and the result was fascism that the world had never seen before.
Fast forward to the latest example in 1994 when one million Tutsis and moderate Hutus were slaughtered and killed by their fellow citizens in Rwanda. I happened to travel to Rwanda weeks that followed after the genocide ended. We went with a church team to help minister to the Christians that had survived the genocide. It was shocking to find many Rwandese Evangelical Pastors were involved in the genocide.
What happened was that Tutsi and Hutu moderates would run for refuge in a Christian Church only for the Pastor to call upon a group of young men with machetes who then slaughtered the refugees right inside the Church. It happened across from the Catholic Church, Protestant Church to the Evangelical Church, Preachers, Pastors, Priests and lay Christians participating in hate and then murder.
What would cause a Christian to act in such a way?
Could it ever happen in America? My prayer is that it will not, perhaps Christians would learn from mistakes of the past and not repeat them.
It is important to keep in mind that there are many Evangelical Christians in the USA who are denouncing Political Christianity and all the bigotry and hate being spewed out of American Evangelical pulpits. Evangelical Christianity has been ‘hijacked’ by some groups that are bent on turning it into a Political and even militant group; and these individuals have found their way into pulpits and bible seminaries and it is to such groups and political activists that the American Christian must discern and keep away from.
‘Fascist Christianity’…I thought Christianity was about the Gospel of Jesus Christ…? It sounds like an oxymoron to say ‘Fascist Christianity’ and it is for sure one, but that is the direction in which Political Evangelical Christianity is headed.
They say tough times reveal character and this election season in America has revealed the heart of Political Evangelical Christianity as being vile, intolerant, hateful, and murderous at heart and void of the True Biblical Love and Truth of Jesus Christ.
Political Evangelical Christians consider themselves to be “Pro America” and “Real American”, while all the ‘Liberals’ are considered “None Americans”, “None Patriotic” and enemies…
The terrifying and cold undercurrent of all this Political Evangelical Madness is HATE and that is what I am warning every Evangelical Christian about. It is HATE grounded in fear that Moslems, Liberals and Arabs will overrun the USA. It is this HATE that will fuel ‘Fascist Christianity’ resulting in what exterminating those who are of different opinions.
Some may say this is impossible but how did a well developed and civilized society like Germany end up with Hitler and Christians backing him in his genocide plans? Just like Islam was seen as a threat to Christians in Europe so is Islam seen as a threat to Political Evangelical Christians in America. The result was hate, fascism, and finally murder. The end of the road of fascism is always genocide…
My prayer is that US Evangelicals will not get to such levels…that they will know that their enemy is not the Moslem or Arab and or Liberal but Satan, and that they should wage a war of good acts of kindness, love and truth of Jesus Christ and do what Jesus Christ would do…that they will hold on to Justice and fight for the weak, poor, orphans, and the neglected of this world…that they will not revenge but remember that vengeance belongs only to God.
American Evangelicals are being slowly but surely being conditioned with hate and prepared for fascism..
I personally denounce these groups of fear mongering faithless political dominionist nuts! I want no part of them and their agendas. And I do not consider them brethren…not until they repent.
“I trust in You, O Lord…. My times are in Your hand.” Psalm 31:14-15
“Let us draw near to God with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith.” Hebrews 10:21-22
“Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.” Philippians 4:6-7
“These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” John 16:33
“And let the peace of God rule in your hearts…” Colossians 3:15
“Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord: looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled.” Hebrews 12:14-15
“…walk worthy of the calling with which you were called, with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love, endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.” Ephesians 4:1-3
“[Jesus] saw the city and wept over it, saying, ‘If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.'” Luke 19:41-44
“Peace to you! As the Father has sent Me, I also send you.” John 20:21