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Dobson’s Focus on the Family: or is it Focus on the Coven?


My first reaction to this item was,  SAY WHAT!? Then I read it again just to be sure I had not misunderstood–nope, I read it correctly the first time. Perhaps its just me but I found this bizarre, and dare I say a tad hypocritical?

Dobson’s Focus on the Family publication, Plugged In, which was founded to equip parents, youth leaders, ministers and teens on today’s media is not only endorsing the blockbuster film Twilight, but sees Biblical Spiritual lessons to be learned from it concerning family…or in this case, coven.

Let me say, I don’t  give 2 ‘hoots’ about this movie. But Focus on the Family giving it basically a green-light is beyond weird.

This is the same man and organization, who just days before the recent Presidential election, attempted to sway (I called it manipulation at the time) Christian voters by sowing seeds of fear when sending out thousands of letters, with the link included, to his wildly speculative fantasy document: “Letter from 2012 in Obama’s America”.

Or, who more recently sent out letters encouraging Christians to boycott certain store chains because they choose to use ‘Happy Holidays’ over the more traditional ‘Merry Christmas’.

I guess we all pick and choose our battles, but spending time and [wasting] energy boycotting chain stores and sending out wildly speculative fear mail,  seems pretty lame to me–especially when they cannot discern the very real dangers, they themselves are helping to promote, by extolling what they perceive as virtues found in a film based upon the occult.

From Caryl Productions:

The “Twilight” Phenomena

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Incredibly, this Christmas Season, when Jesus, the Light of the world used to be highlighted by the Church, many Churched and Christian ministries are promoting another light, “Twilight” the movie!

Based on Mormon, Stephenie Meyer’s 4-book “vampire romance” series, the Twilight movie was released last week (Nov 21, 2008) in 3419 cinema theaters across the nation and grossed over $70 million its first weekend. It’s the hottest pop culture phenomenon since Harry Potter mania.

In only a few short years I’ve watched the occult addiction mushroom amongst teens and develop aggressively into a yearning that they’d even sell their eternal souls for. Think of it, the love of a vampire, a being the Bible describes as demon possessed, musters the longing to remain lost for eternity – the very state Jesus Christ died to save sinners from. How diabolical is Satan’s message to our young innocents luring them, through a lust-filled romance, to spend eternity with him and away from the presence of our God of love?

Twilight takes occult darkness, introduced in Potter, to deeper, decadent fathoms: overt vampirism, acceptable blood-sucking (in this movie its only animal blood – later? Wait and see!) and sexual lust for the possessed soul (made appealing in its fictionalized form!). The books, akin to the Potter’s series, promote and familiarize their audience with magick, Wicca, supernatural powers and demon possession.

But what is beyond alarming is that Christians are seduced by satanic deception and have succumbed to Twilight’s fascination of dark wisdom, a power Scripture warns against – loving evil more than good (Psalm 52:3), and placing what the world admires before what God requires.

Focus on the Family, Christianity Today, The Catholic News Service, Christian Stay at Home Moms and Christian Teen Magazine are among some of the Christian groups who’ve been misled by occult delusion, and instead of warning Christians of its dangers, have compromised its lying message.

“Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness…. Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!” Isaiah 5:20-21

The church and Christians are being deceived by many new-age occult philosophies and are promoting them as compatible with “Christian” ideals.

A few quotes from Focus on the Family’s review of the film Twilight:

“I’d never given much thought to how I would die.”

So begins one of the most resonant love stories to touch teen culture in quite some time. Love, found in a world filled with terrifying monsters in the moonlight. Love, found at a strange high school in a tiny, rainy town that Bella Swan did not want to live in. Love, found by a cold-blooded vampire who didn’t think he would ever feel warmth again. Love, found by both of them to be intoxicating to the point of creating near giddy insanity.

Bella moves to Forks, Wash., to live with her dad after her divorced mother remarries. She thinks of it as an exile. Certainly she doesn’t think anything good will come of it. She’s from Phoenix, and she hates the cold and rain. She’s a high school junior, so she doesn’t relish the idea of starting over at a new school. She’s uncertain about her relationship with her dad.

But she fits in better than she anticipates. Or at least she thinks she does until she meets Edward Cullen. Butterflies start circling in her stomach the moment she sees him, but all he does is glare at her. It might take a while to smooth out the bumps, but Bella’s determined to make it work with her white-faced dreamboat.

So determined, it turns out, that even when she learns that he’s a bloodsucking vampire, she’s unwavering in her newfound infatuation. “You don’t scare me,” she tells him repeatedly, almost as if she’s trying to convince herself along with him.

Her resolve is continually tested as she learns that it’s all he can do to resist the desire to kill her, as she meets his intimidating family of vampires, and as she becomes the target of a nomadic “tracker” vamp, who’s decided she’s the endgame of an eternal lifetime. But love is love, she figures, no matter the risk. And therein lies the heart and soul of Twilight..

Family is a big part of what nurtures Twilight’s love. Edward’s coven—family—of vampires is a loving one. Each member is committed to protecting the others, even Bella when she becomes part of them through her relationship with Edward.

Spiritual Content

Accepting, for a moment, the idea that vampires can exist in a fantasy world and that they are capable of making “moral” choices within the framework of their predetermined natures, it would be fair to say that the Cullen clan’s choice to avoid killing humans is … positive. Edward explains to Bella that they are “vegetarians,” meaning that they have learned to survive on the blood of animals. Beyond being grateful that she’s not going to be devoured mere moments after falling in love for the first time in her life, Bella interprets this as them being “good” vampires who have struggled, some for centuries, to renounce their evil inclinations.

So within the context of a monster mash such as this, we can see a reflection of the Christian calling to put away the old man of sin and embrace the new one—a path that while straight and narrow, is certainly more difficult to walk.

Edward and Bella don’t talk about it much, but it is intimated that despite their ability to choose good over evil, Edward considers himself and all other vampires to be eternally damned, and he resists mightily the idea of allowing Bella to descend into the abyss that he finds himself submerged in. She doesn’t care a whit about that. She’s eager to become a “cold one” if only it means she will be with her beau forever.

Edward can read minds. His sister, Alice, sees visions of the future.

Fans of the books clearly weren’t there to just see a movie. They were there to experience the thrill of “meeting” their favorite characters in all their huge, big-screen glory. This says a lot about how much impact Meyer’s story is having. Readers—and now moviegoers—are soaking in everything she’s written, taking it to heart and wearing it, quite literally, on their sleeves.

One Twilight T-shirt being sold (and which I saw at the movie) proclaims, “Forbidden Fruit Tastes the Best.” And that’s certainly one of the film’s underlying themes. This isn’t about me beating up Twilight for being about vampires, though. There are positives in it that bear repeating: The Cullens refuse to be party to murder even when it’s their “nature” to kill and feed off humans. Edward consistently controls his own blood lust around his classmates and especially around Bella. He cares for her.

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  • Interesting sidenote:

Author Stephenie Meyer

A housewife named Stephenie Meyer “received” the story of Twilight in a dream on June 2, 2003.  The vision she had of a vampire and mortal as lovers compelled her to start writing the story immediately.  She says she couldn’t resist the drive to write down her dream (a similar scenario to J.K Rowlings, author of Harry Potter).  Meyer gives a summary of that first dream:

“I woke up (on that June 2nd) from a very vivid dream. In my dream, two people were having an intense conversation in a meadow in the woods. One of these people was just your average girl. The other person was fantastically beautiful, sparkly, and a vampire. They were discussing the difficulties inherent in the facts that A) they were falling in love with each other while B) the vampire was particularly attracted to the scent of her blood, and was having a difficult time restraining himself from killing her immediately.”

Within three months, she had the entire novel written. Within six-months, it had been dreamed, written, and readied for publishing.

She admits she had little to no prior writing experience with only a B.A. degree in English and had to learn from the Internet how to submit a book proposal.  She tried a few times and “miraculously” got published with a $750 thousand dollar publishing contract! Miraculous happenings have been known to come from powers of darkness, and in this case, no matter how it’s sliced, the God of the Bible would not use vampires, sexual tension, lust, boyfriend worship, and teenage romance to spread His Gospel of eternal life and salvation through Yeshua.

Meyer, a Mormon mother of three, states that some of her inspiration in writing her vampire saga came from a band of musicians called Marjorie Fair.

“For New Moon, they were absolutely essential. They can put you into a suicidal state faster than anything I know . . . Their songs really made it beautiful for me.”

Also an inspiration for one of her characters was a band called My Chemical Romance. She states, “It’s someone . . . who just wants to go out and blow things up.

Scarily, Meyer’s fictional character Edward took on the “terrifying” form of “real” spirit when it leapt from the pages of her saga and communicated with her in a dream.

She says she had an additional dream after Twilight was finished when her vampire character Edward came to visit and speak to her. The Edward who visited her in the night told her she’d got it all wrong because he DID drink human blood, and could not “live” on ONLY animal blood as she wrote in the story.  She said, “We had this conversation and he was terrifying.”

Conversation with spirits (saying they need human blood to suck!) and frightening dream visitations by spirits are part of occult communication.

Meyer’s spiritual experiences could well be influenced by her Mormon faith which allows for communication with the so-called “the dead”; indeed “the dead” of former generations are baptized into Mormonism in Mormon Temple ritual.

In 2007, Stephenie Meyer wrote portions of a work titled, “Prom Nights from Hell,” which is about supernatural events surrounding evil prom nights. On May 6, 2008, she released her adult novel, The Host, which is about “invading alien souls” that take over a person and get them to do what they want.

This behavior is called demonic possession, a state Jesus came to set captives free from.  Meyer’s so-called fiction “crosses over” to severe occult philosophy.

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The Other Reviews Mentioned:

The Catholic News Service

ChristianityToday

Christian Stay at Home Moms

30 comments on “Dobson’s Focus on the Family: or is it Focus on the Coven?

  1. Well said, PJ!

    I appreciate your insight concerning the hypocrisy of Focus on the Family .

    If they were truly encouraging us to focus on our families then how can they possibly be promoting this movie?

    Such deception!

    Yvonne @ Fragrance of Truth

  2. I believe we should be using logic and reason and not superstition when dealing with any kind of literature. J.R.R. Tolkien used wizards and elves as characters in his Lord of the Rings series, and others, to create one of the greatest allegories of Christ in Literature. C.S. Lewis used other worldly, intelligent, non-human, creatures in his allegory for Christ, the Narnia series. Let’s not forget Screwtape. Works of science fiction containing witches, and vampires, and supernatural creatures such as elves aren’t perpetuating evil. The superstitious minds of Christians who hear “witch” or “vampire” and immediately shun it, without doing the logical thing and reading it, or talking to those who have, and then making an educated personal call and not an assumption. I read Harry Potter to my babes when the first book was released…just at the recommendation of a friend. Then, as the books became more popular, I hear a bunch of blowhards boycotting the book because it contained “occult messages” and glorified magic and wizardry. I tought, “that’s not the book I read.” And yet, these are the same groups and people who gushed over the release of The Lord of the Rings and the Narnia movies. Hmmm…I thought. I don’t see a difference. Harry Potter is full of Christian iconography and themes, just like Tolkien and Lewis. What is the matter with everyone.

    I have much respect for a few of the Christian pulications who reviewed the Twilight books and movies positively. Because they gave it a positive review doesn’t mean they are delusional and have been blinded by it’s occultic allure. I have begun reading Twilight…I prefer to read it before I see the movie. I believe that my God-given ability to decern and reason will help me to come to my own conclusions. Maybe I will see things that make me uncomfortable. Perhaps I find some great lessons in it. However, im going to read it before I let my kids. And make my decision when im done.

    • As a Christian, the books and movie do not scare me because of the vampire content but rather the message that we are giving to our young people.

      1. That it is ok to give up your salvation for the sake of love.

      2. That it is ok to throw yourself into dangerous situations so that the love of your life will come and save you.

      3. That it is ok to sleep together before marriage as long as we do not have sex. ( We all know that we are not as strong willed as others.) Also to have a boy in your room watching you sleep is ok as well.

      4. She calls herself a, “Stupid Lamb”, and that is embraced now on t-shirts for our daughters to wear proudly. (Do you want your daughter to consider herself a stupid lamb and follow whoever her heart tells her to?)

      The list goes on an on. I am not a kill joy of love or great literature but this is not healthy for our girls to see. They are so bombarded with a world telling them that they should look and be a certain way and now they should fall in love with a boy that they are not equally yoked with and give it all up for the sake of the boy.

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  4. I’ll call it “humanistic comparison.” If we can reflect Evil as a corrupting force, and resist it with another more noble force bound within the right of the human soul, then can we not exalt that battle as one of good versus evil?

    It is the classic white witch, doing battle with the black witch. The Wizard of Oz parody. He’s a wizard, but a nice one, as is his fairy, the good witch of the west.

    Eventually , this is the standard of morality itself…comparative humanism…based on the ethics that seem right in any given instance. The Bible has been boiled down to situational ethics. We’re the good vampires. We only drink animal blood. It’s those bad vampires who murder humans .

    This is the slide that removes the soul from Heaven itself. Our righteousness is how we act, as is defined not by the Word of God, nor abiding in His Holy Spirit, but in view to what is noble on the human level; Secular Humanism replacement theology.

    Evil is not evil, for there can be nobility even in the most vile, and this is a good thing!

    I have heard other things about Dobson, but don’t care to investigate. I have watched movies before that I regret, and have walked out or shut down many, many more upon seeing filth., but I always knew it was what it was. To begin to call the vile holy, and the holy ridiculous, is another thing. The reason the last days were called PERILOUS , partly, is because of Pastors like this, that have embraced a gospel that is all about you and me, and our well being. The true gospel is one about honoring the Lord Jesus, and being created, through bearing our cross, to become like Him….in REALITY.

    Again, this kind of leadership is one that we don’t need. Send Dobson over to Patty King, and to Crowder and the boys. They could all meet at the Goth Church, slap on some makeup, feel real liberated, and then view a showing of TWILIGHT. Dobson could then comment in an environment where he is appreciated.

  5. PS: PJ, is this really a picture of you at the top? You are cute. Are you a married woman?

    Tom

  6. I have not read the books or watched the first film, nor do I have a desire to. The lack of desire is not for any specific reason other than the fact that it does not interest me. As a father of 2 daughters in their teens the damage that I have heard that can come from these books and the movie is the fascinating and emotional love story between the girl and the vampire. I have even heard some girls talking about how they wish they could fall in love with someone like this. The last time I heard young girls talking this way was with the movie “Titanic”. Now, I will admit, that I do take a very proactive role in screening anything that I allow in my house, whether for me and my wife or for my kids. I must admit that I was raised on Dobson and Focus and admittedly am a very judgmental person. I was taught to not test things for myself but rather to take the words of a few known authoritative figures and respect and adhere to their opinions. Over the years, especially since I have been married and have children, I have drifted away from taking everything a few say as the gospel and learning to use my spiritual discernment to test things on my own. I also admit that I like certain genres of what is called science fiction. Not all of it…I’m very choosy, but nevertheless there is some stuff that is science fiction and not intended to portray a Christian worldview that is chock full of great theological points and lessons. Last night a Harry Potter movie was on TV and my kids asked if they could watch it. I said, “No”. But I said “No” based on the backlash of some in the Christian community saying that basically if you let your kids watch this they will turn into anti-Christ warlocks and wizards. So, I recanted, with one caveat: I would sit and watch the movie as well and be very proactive in my conversation with the kids about some topics that could mislead them if they do not have a firm grasp of the truth. I gotta admit…I loved the movie! Christian movie? Not at all, but there were many Christian principles that I thought the movie exposed very well. There was also some “garbage” that my children and I talked in depth about. I was amazed at my children’s own grasp of the truth and their abilities to discern truth and good principles from error and wrong principles. So, it turns out we enjoyed the movie together. Just like we enjoyed all of the Star Wars movies and the Chronicles of Narnia movies thus far. I am still, however, not interested in seeing “Twilight”. It seems the movie is drawing in the intended target group of young, impressionable teenage girls. I am concerned that they are getting a very wrong message from the plot. I am glad that my kids have already said they don’t want anything to do with it. That makes the conversations about it pretty short!!!! Anyhow, I’m pretty sure that I may take some “abuse” here from those who do not agree with me…that’s OK, I’m quite a big boy! The point of this article is very well taken. It is amazing that Dobson and his organization has come to the point where they are actually sounding like they are endorsing a movie like “Twilight” as something worth watching, according to their “high” standards. It is true that God can use anything to speak to us but I wouldn’t expect them to seem to encourage people to wade through the garbage to find the one or two tiny morsels of edible food! Oh well…

    On a more personal note, Lisa and Kit: I have something that I wanted to talk to you about and I didn’t want to air it over the public domain. If you feel that I am trustworthy and that it would be beneficial, could you please email me at: reformed1@comcast.net. Thanks and God be with you all! My interview is in a couple of hours and I will be getting ready and praying. I will update those of you who are aware of my situation as soon as the Lord reveals the outcome to me.

  7. I forgot, I wanted to post a review of the “Twilight” books and movie (I am almost sure that with the success of the first one they will make sequels based on the other 3 books in the series). This review is done by someone with whom I look to often for solid Biblical discernment in media, whether books or movies or books turned into movies. If you are interested about the topic of “Twilight” I think this review is worth your time, especially if you have a teenage girl. The link is:

    http://www.challies.com/archives/book-reviews/book-review—twilight.php

    This review was written by Tim Challies and is on his site at Challies.com. Hope it can benefit someone if you are interested in this topic.

  8. PS: PJ, is this really a picture of you at the top? You are cute. Are you a married woman?

    🙂 ahahaha!! I ‘wish’ i was as young as the girl in that picture Tom!

  9. Thanks Reformed, for the link to Tim’s review of the books…that was an interesting read [the comments left, were interesting also]

    I agree with the few of you who expressed the idea that we as Christians, can go overboard or ‘ballistic’ over certain movies/books etc, believing they are all inspired by satan himself,..and i know some discernment websites do DO this…[it bugs me too]

    Call me a heretic, but this was ‘Harry Potter’ weekend on the Family channel, and yes i watched some of it… to be frank, i couldn’t see what all of the outrage [over these movies] was about…but im an adult so just saw them as fun..

    I love the Chronicles of Narnia, and the Lord of the Rings series…

    And like you reformed, i too like some Sci-Fi movies/books. 🙂

    I haven’t read the Twilight books and won’t. My reason is because i was into all this ‘dark stuff’ before coming to Christ and know first hand where it can lead.

    What disturbed me personally, was the sidenote i posted on the author–how she got the idea, [in a dream] how she felt ‘driven’ to write it all down, and the speed in which it all was accomplished.

    Also what occurred afterward:

    Meyer’s fictional character Edward took on the “terrifying” form of “real” spirit when it leapt from the pages of her saga and communicated with her in a dream.

    She says she had an additional dream after Twilight was finished when her vampire character Edward came to visit and speak to her.

    The Edward who visited her in the night told her she’d got it all wrong because he DID drink human blood, and could not “live” on ONLY animal blood as she wrote in the story. She said, “We had this conversation and he was terrifying.”

    not good folks, not good at all.

    I’m old enough to remember the interview with Jimmy Page and Robert Plant, in which they told how they came to ‘receive’ the song, Stairway to Heaven, while staying in Satanist Aleister Crowleys home. Page and Plant said the songs lyrics came through ‘automatic handwriting’

    My point is, while we can be inspired by God, people can also be ‘inspired’ by evil spirits. It appears to me these books were inspired by unclean spirits…

    As the author of the article pointed out, it could be because of the background of the writer of these books–her Mormon faith.

  10. Again, this kind of leadership is one that we don’t need. Send Dobson over to Patty King, and to Crowder and the boys.

    Tom, to be honest i was floored that Dobson’s ministry basically, gave this a thumbs up…

    Here’s a guy who rants and raves constantly about how ‘families are loosing the culture war’ and turns around and finds ‘family virtues’ in a film about a coven of sensual vampires.

  11. My daughter had read a few tidbits from this book online and she said she wasn’t interested in it. She didn’t think she would like the book, and I assumed Twilight-mania wouldn’t take hold at our house.
    But last weekend she was at a friend’s house, and they actually watched this movie on her friend’s computer. I am not sure how they managed this. Anyway, my daughter fell in love with the movie, and now wants to read all of the books. She said she liked it because it was romantic. Apparently, the boy, Edward, rescues the girl instead of the other way around. And it is not all about sex, like a lot of our ‘romance’ films today.
    Still, I am not sure how I feel about my daughter’s turnaround. I’m not really fond of the vampire aspect of this book. I just hope the theme of a more moral, romantic relationship will take hold without all the vampire/monster nonsense. It would be nice to see a good romantic movie for a change.

  12. PJ,
    Concerning Focus on the Family’s support of Meyer’s writings, I would say that I am baffled, too, but anymore I am sighing deeply, just like Jesus did. I was reading Scripture the other day I read how Jesus sighed deeply…(Mark 8:11-12).

    When I first became a Christian, I used to read the verses in Revelation that talked about a time when the saints would have to endure patiently…

    *sigh*…

  13. Hey Pj, great article. I knew very little about this series before reading this, but I already felt uneasy about it. Now I know why.

    And as to Potter…probably my favorite series I’ve ever read. And it really gets under my skin when people harp on about it. I actually read a book called “Finding God in Harry Potter” that spends 11 or 12 chapters proving that Rowling built on the same framework that Lewis and Tolkien did. *Shakes head* Sorry, had to get that out.

    Interestingly, you know who really abhors Harry Potter and thoroughly discourages its reading: Patricia King! It’s in her FAQ’s on her website. I don’t know about you, but I find it hysterical. What ever happened to “a house divided against itself cannot stand”?

  14. findingthemotherlode,

    I’m a sigh-er too… many days and nights while sitting at my computer reading the ‘latest’…i find myself doing just that.

    I call it suffering from the ‘Lot Syndrome’: Lot was vexed at the things he saw and heard going on around him daily…we can find ourselves like that also.

    Wearymom,

    thanks for the links.

    I’m not sure i see any evil in the Narnia Chronicles though–like the author does.

    I was an early reader…[least according to my parents lol] so books have always been important to me. I can recall all the trips to the local library, with my class, and the time spent looking for ‘new adventures’ in books. I loved reading then and still do…

    Personally, i don’t find anything wrong [or evil] about children enjoying fantasy books, [some of my favorites as a child were the many volumes of Grimms Fairy Tales;..if i recall, there were 5-6 big books in the series…]

    Allowing a child to enjoy fairy tales or fantasy stories isn’t the problem, if it was every child who ever read little red riding-hood would be possessed! 🙂

    Its the type of fantasy which is being offered to young people today– as in the books the Twilight series, which appear to have dark sensuous under-tones…and if you’ve noticed, many of them like last years The Golden Compass, are not even subtly anti-God, they are blatantly so…(thank the Lord it was a flop!)

  15. Interestingly, you know who really abhors Harry Potter and thoroughly discourages its reading: Patricia King! It’s in her FAQ’s on her website. I don’t know about you, but I find it hysterical.

    ahahaha! Chris, that IS hysterical!

    This from a woman who teaches classes on out of body experiences…LOL

  16. wearymom,
    Thanks for the links. I read them both and respectfully disagree. I don’t disagree with the Bible, just the author. However, I will say this: if something is perceived as sin by someone then it should be treated as sin. If others have not been personally convicted that it is sin, and in their liberty and freedom in Christ they are not betraying the promptings of the Spirit in their heart and conscience, then something like this might have to fall in the “agree to disagree” category. I could definitely understand how someone who has been saved out of the occult could see things differently just the same as someone who was delivered from alcoholism must completely abstain and stay away from alcohol. As a Christian I am not to taunt people’s weaknesses in front of them even if I feel liberty and freedom to participate in something that may cause someone else to stumble. Out of love, for that person and God, I would abstain so as not to offend or cause one to stumble. However, I feel that at times people can, and do, make blanket statements that everyone should adhere to. Maybe this is an area I am wrong in. If I am then I pray that conviction will come and I will submit to it. Until then, I don’t see anything wrong with watching Narnia, Potter, or other things that do not convict me. I also do not feel the need to run out and start casting spells on people, whether good ones or bad ones, just because I watched Harry Potter the other night. It is a fantasy movie and I realize it as such. If the author of the links is convicted it is wrong then I respect his right to hold that opinion (or conviction) and to live by it. I wish him nothing but love and the best.

    Lisa,
    I have not read “Twilight” nor have I seen the movie. The plot does not interest me. However, if you click on the link in my earlier post, you will see that there is danger in the remaining books. It’s not vampire danger, but it’s danger in the fact that these books seem to target young girls with romance. The author of the review admittedly is not interested in sci-fi but decided to read book 1 and review it since every girl seems to be mesmerized by it. The reviewer’s wife happens to like sci-fi and she agreed to read books 3-4 for him. Her assessment was that even though book 1 and the corresponding movie seem fairly conservative in their handling of the physical relationships (intimacy/sexual tension) books 2-4 blow that right out of the water. With so many girls impressed with the conservative first movie, the danger is in the movies that are sure to follow (you gotta know they are gonna make sequels with the success of the first one). Evidently, the remaining books are extremely sensual/erotic and graphic. If you have time, Lisa, read the review I linked and maybe that will help you understand how to lead your child through this. I know you are a wonderful mom who loves her daughter and I think maybe it would be beneficial to see the danger on the horizon for books 2-4.

    PJ,
    I agree with what you commented about how the movie came about that’s the creepy part. That is creepy! It does seem like something evil may have been at work there. I’m sure the enemy is happy. Still can’t figure out how FOF endorses it. It’s one thing to say there are some redeeming values in the movie with positive real life applications but it’s another to give it a thumbs up and recommend it. I didn’t read FOF’s stand on it. Maybe I will have to go look it up, but I’m wondering, did they really recommend it as a worthy movie to watch? Why does FOF seem to be embracing everything lately that seems “out there”? In the old days, no matter how good the movie was, had FOF known how this movie was inspired, and known the author’s religious background, on that grounds alone they would have said, “Forbidden”, or at least, “Approach with extreme discernment and caution”. Doesn’t make sense to me. God bless!

  17. Lisa,
    I forgot…here’s another link that was found about the movie. It is by a UK publication and I don’t think it is a religious publication but I’m not sure. However, they do not touch on the spiritual aspects or dangers but still find much wrong and bad in the themes of the “Twilight” series. I would recommend reading this review as well, for it touches on the topic of the danger and wrong messages it sends to girls. Hope it helps:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2008/dec/04/twilight-film-vampire

  18. After reading the range of comments, this is what it seems to boil down to- a call for wisdom and discernment.

    James says that if we ask for wisdom, God will pour it on (paraphrased)! And time and again, the Scriptures point to the need for wisdom and discernment. 1 John tells us to test the spirits…

    But I’m afraid that so many well-meaning Christians do not do this. They go on their own understanding and lean upon their own familiar points of reference, disregarding the subtlety of the serpent’s cunning.

    Remember, the fruit in the Garden was full of appeal and temporal pleasure, but it only led to shame and the downfall of mankind.

    Same story, different characters–which part do you want to play?

    Why feed at the worm table of Satan’s poison banquet when God has prepared a delightful healthy feast for your soul?

  19. I’m sorry I don’t have time to read everyone’s responses although in skimming Emi’s, I somewhat agree. I know nothing about “Twilight” and vampires alone kind of sound creepy to me, but I see a contradiction when many Christians praise Lord of the Rings and Narnia but call Harry Potter and other stories “evil”. All of these stories involve magic, witches, etc. so I think people should be all or nothing in this particular area.

    To be brutally honest: we as Christians should really question most “entertainment” since we have to wonder would Jesus watch ANY movies or read any of these books if He were here today?!?

  20. Reformed1,
    Thanks for the links. I have read one and will read the other as soon as I get the chance.
    My daughter seems to have a pretty good head on her shoulders so hopefully the Twilight-mania will pass soon. Now that she is reading the first book, she doesn’t seem as excited about it. She is used to reading more mature? accomplished? authors and is not very fond of the writing of Meier.
    Maybe I shouldn’t have, but I have always encouraged her to read read read. I allowed her to read all the Harry Potter books. And it was actually my daughter who warned me against The Golden Compass. I had no idea that one was so wicked.
    Truthfully, though, I was happier when she was reading ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’, and ‘Where the Red Fern Grows.’ I wish she was a little girl again!

  21. Can I recommend an article from the Lighthouse trails blog – special report – occultic twilight movie praised by Christian groups.

  22. Focus on the Family’s review sounds way too much like Sympathy for the Devil to me.

    As a matter of fact, it is way too much sympathy for the devil. Remember, seduction and hell are synonymous.

  23. I just read the entire review and I’m a bit confused as to where the evidence is that FOF is giving this movie a “green light.” The review on Plugged In makes it clear in the end that it is a questionable movie. All Plugged In reviews include the same things: positive elements, negative elements, violence, sex, etc. I think the review was pretty clear on all the bad stuff in it.

    In my opinion, FOF and Plugged In gives “green lights” on lots of entertainment that I would deem as trash. I guess a vampire movie is just more obvious but it is the more subtle entertainment that concerns me. Psalm 101:3 says, “I will set nothing wicked before my eyes…” and wicked there in Hebrew means “without profit” and “worthlessness” — which much of today’s entertainment falls into that category.

  24. peace. Seems like readers are attracted so much more to vampires, monsters, ghosts, than a human protagonist. peace.
    TL Boehm
    http://www.eloquentbooks.com/BethanysCrossing.html

  25. Thank you, thank you, thank you! Finally I have found people who feel the way I do! Our daughter, who is eleven, is one of a very few girls in our church that have not read the books or seen the movie. Two Bible study leaders took most of the teen girls at our church to see this movie! I do not understand this! Didn’t God says, “Whatever is Pure, whatever is Holy, think upon these things”? I am made out to be the freak! We may be leaving our church after ten years and one of the reasons is that we are surrounded by people who are raising their children with this type of media and lifestyle as being acceptable. How is a girl giving up her salvation to be a vampire ever been acceptable? Just because she waits until her wedding night does not mean that we stand up and support a book and a movie that is so opposite of God. I am heartsick that so may Christian organizations have supported this? When are we going to protect the eyes, ears and hearts of these precious young boys and girls that God hand created for something so much greater than this?

  26. Thank you!!! I have been screaming, “What is up with this craze among Christians!!!” How is this not so obvious that Christians should avoid this series. Christians keep saying, ‘If you can get passed the fact they are vampires…” Really…should we go further than that? The fact that they are vampires should be a no read/no see. Forget debating the issue of good vs. evil and use some God given common sense. How about reading some reality books on scripture for a craze or obsession. No brainer Christians! We are to be set a part!!

  27. I do not support the Twilight Saga as appropriate material for Christians. I think as Christians we are too weak to stand up to compromise. We find “themes” that supposedly “relate to us”. Well what about all the other stuff that doesn’t and shouldn’t relate to us. Some say it’s fictional and just like Tolkien or CS Lewis, but in fact it is very different. One big difference, is the author and the author’s beliefs. I believe the Bible is clear. “Avoid every kind of evil” 1 Thess 5:22.

    There are more differences between Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings and CS Lewis books. One big one that keeps me away from H.P. is the promotion of witchcraft and sorcery (which the Bible is clear about). Here is a great article I read that helps understand the difference a bit. http://www.virtuemag.org/articles/harry-potter-narnia-and-the-lord-of-the-rings-book-review
    However, Richard Abanes , has views about Twilight that I disagree with.

    I do agree with Ted Baehr and what he has to say about Twilight. http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/drbaehr/2009/11/28/voting-for-spiritual-confusion/#more-269322

    Following God should not be confusing. If you have to ask yourself if you should be watching or reading something…maybe you shouldn’t. I think it’s worth educating ourselves (most don’t want to take the time to do that) on the authors, and the content that is written. I like the Bible verse that says “You will know them by their fruits” If we follow after God and what is Holy and pleasing to Him, we will bear fruit in our life that is clearly of Him. If we choose to compromise our walk and “find God” in the fruit that the world offers, we are falling right into the trap and lies of Satan. We should be very careful about what we fix our eyes and mind on.

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