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Lee Grady, religious paradigms & ‘a new thing’


uh-oh, Lee Grady’s talking about a ‘new-thing’…

Can’t help it. That phrase plus a few other words used in Christian circles (like paradigm shift) naturally put me on guard.

Why do these folks, when referring to ‘a new thing’ today, always quote Isaiah 43:19?

“Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert”

God did do a new thing…he provided a way of salvation through Christ.

“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new” – 2Cor 5:17

And why is that never enough? I’m not picking on Lee Grady, but these folks ain’t figured out the ‘old thing’ yet. And sadly I don’t believe many of them ever will. How can they when they are too busy looking for a ‘new thing’?

I don’t want some new ‘thing’–and to be frank, I don’t believe there is one, or has been one, since the day of Pentecost. The ONLY (next) new thing I’m interested in, is the coming of Christ. Until then I’ll stay on the old path…

The Charismatic Movement: Dead or Alive?

by Lee Grady

We can quibble over when the previous wave of the Holy Spirit ended. But what’s important is that we follow God’s presence into a new season.

Some readers were offended when I declared in an online column a few weeks ago that the charismatic movement is dead. One woman even accused me of heresy, since—in her words—I believe “the age of the Holy Spirit has ended.” (I didn’t say that.) Others on the opposite side of the spectrum asked why I waited so long to state the obvious. All this discussion prompted me to address the issue further.

I am not a coroner. But I do believe the historic period we call the American charismatic movement ended a while ago. By making that pronouncement I was NOT saying that (1) the Holy Spirit isn’t moving today; (2) the miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit aren’t available to us any more; or (3) people who are associated with this movement are all washed up.

On the contrary, we could be on the cusp of one of the most dynamic spiritual awakenings in history, and it will most certainly be accompanied by the supernatural work of the Spirit.

Yet if we want to shift with Him into the next season we must lay aside old mindsets and worn-out religious paradigms that we picked up during the past 40 years. When God comes to do “a new thing,” as Isaiah promised He would (Isa. 43:19, NASB), we must embrace new priorities, recalibrate our spiritual values and set aside the baggage of the past.

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11 comments on “Lee Grady, religious paradigms & ‘a new thing’

  1. Quote: Why do these folks, when referring to ‘a new thing’ today, always quote Isaiah 43:19?

    you think it is “ever learning and never coming to the Truth”. ??

  2. I have really enjoyed Lee Grady’s articles. I think he is one of the few people in the Charismatic renewal calling for reform. I think he is on the right track, when he calls leaders in the movement to examine where we are at and what is broke . But I agree with you when you say that the phrase ” New Thing” sets off alarm bells. Somewhere along the line modern Christianity took a wrong turn when it began to crave NEWNESS as a spiritual virtue. And I laughed out loud at your threat level blinking. That is a keeper, but I think Lee Grady only deserves an Elevated rating. Keep up the good work. Love the site.

    • I agree…Lee should get the ‘guarded’ warning, or maybe ‘elevated’ AHA…

      Somewhere along the line modern Christianity took a wrong turn when it began to crave NEWNESS as a spiritual virtue.

      That’s an interesting point. I hadn’t quite looked at it that way before, but i think you’re right. Newness or the prediction of a ‘new thing’ has become a spiritual virtue to these folks. Almost a necessity–something they wrongly believe we are to constantly seek for.

  3. There IS a ‘new thing’ coming, as sure as eggs are eggs. HEAVEN is coming …..or HELL.

    Until then I will stick with the old old story thanks. :o)

    • Me too! The old story is the only story which will get us home!

      I heard an old, old story,
      How a Savior came from glory,
      How He gave His life on Calvary
      To save a wretch like me;
      I heard about His groaning,
      Of His precious blood’s atoning,
      Then I repented of my sins
      And won the victory.

      O victory in Jesus,
      My Savior, forever.
      He sought me and bought me
      With His redeeming blood;
      He loved me ere I knew Him
      And all my love is due Him,
      He plunged me to victory,
      Beneath the cleansing flood.

      I heard about His healing,
      Of His cleansing pow’r revealing.
      How He made the lame to walk again
      And caused the blind to see;
      And then I cried, “Dear Jesus,
      Come and heal my broken spirit,”
      And somehow Jesus came and bro’t
      To me the victory.

      O victory in Jesus,
      My Savior, forever.
      He sought me and bought me
      With His redeeming blood;
      He loved me ere I knew Him
      And all my love is due Him,
      He plunged me to victory,
      Beneath the cleansing flood.

      I heard about a mansion
      He has built for me in glory.
      And I heard about the streets of gold
      Beyond the crystal sea;
      About the angels singing,
      And the old redemption story,
      And some sweet day I’ll sing up there
      The song of victory.

      O victory in Jesus,
      My Savior, forever.
      He sought me and bought me
      With His redeeming blood;
      He loved me ere I knew Him
      And all my love is due Him,
      He plunged me to victory,
      Beneath the cleansing flood.

      Music: http://www.biblestudycharts.com/RH_Victory_In_Jesus.html

  4. Well PJ, one has to add that the old thing really is the only new thing going and when the new thing isn’t the old thing the new thing isn’t the old thing. So, beware of new things, unless the new thing really is the old thing, cause, if you don’t beware of new things that are not the old things, you might have an encounter such as what we read here about new things being addressed by that old thing in a new thing guy, which is nothing new:::>

    Heb 1:1 Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets,
    Heb 1:2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.
    Heb 1:3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
    Heb 1:4 having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs.

    Act 17:16 Now while Paul was waiting for them at Athens, his spirit was provoked within him as he saw that the city was full of idols.
    Act 17:17 So he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and the devout persons, and in the marketplace every day with those who happened to be there.
    Act 17:18 Some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers also conversed with him. And some said, “What does this babbler wish to say?” Others said, “He seems to be a preacher of foreign divinities”–because he was preaching Jesus and the resurrection.
    Act 17:19 And they took him and brought him to the Areopagus, saying, “May we know what this new teaching is that you are presenting?
    Act 17:20 For you bring some strange things to our ears. We wish to know therefore what these things mean.”
    Act 17:21 Now all the Athenians and the foreigners who lived there would spend their time in nothing except telling or hearing something new.

    🙂

    • Well PJ, one has to add that the old thing really is the only new thing going and when the new thing isn’t the old thing the new thing isn’t the old thing. So, beware of new things, unless the new thing really is the old thing, cause, if you don’t beware of new things that are not the old things, you might have an encounter such as what we read here about new things being addressed by that old thing in a new thing guy, which is nothing new

      aha! What a tongue-twister Michael 🙂

  5. Polycarp at The Church of Jesus Christ blog, has some insightful comments about Lee’s commentary:

    See, Charismatic Movement: Dead or Alive?

    One thing in particular he said in a comment, is very true and misunderstood by many:

    Often, people confuse pentecostalism with the charismatic movement (and often times, pentecostals confuse themselves with charismatics).

  6. Polycarp, i liked that you pointed out there is a difference between Charismatic and Pentecostal..

    It wasn’t until i started interacting with other believers on blogs and boards that i realized many think they are one and the same.

    About a year ago, after being questioned here about the difference, i posted the link to a pretty good chart.

    If anyone is interested you can find the post and link here:

    Pentecostals And Charismatics: What’s The Difference?

    I’ve never thought of myself as a charismatic…but am definitely a pentecostal. 🙂

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