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Christians Urged to Boycott Glenn Beck


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Christians Urged to Boycott Glenn Beck

4:51 p.m. | Updated Last week, the conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck called on Christians to leave their churches if they heard any preaching about social or economic justice because, he claimed, those were slogans affiliated with Nazism and Communism.

This week, the Rev. Jim Wallis, a liberal evangelical leader in Washington, D.C., called on Christians to leave Glenn Beck.

“What he has said attacks the very heart of our Christian faith, and Christians should no longer watch his show,” Mr. Wallis, who heads the antipoverty group Sojourners, wrote on his “God’s Politics” blog. “His show should now be in the same category as Howard Stern.”

Mr. Beck, in vilifying churches that promote “social justice,” managed to insult just about every mainline Protestant, Roman Catholic, African-American, Hispanic and Asian congregation in the country — not to mention plenty of evangelical ones.

Even Mormon scholars in Mr. Beck’s own church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said in interviews that Mr. Beck seemed ignorant of just how central social justice teaching was to Mormonism.

Mr. Beck himself is a convert to Mormonism, a faith that identifies itself as part of the Christian family, but which is nevertheless rejected by many Christians. Two Mormon scholars said in interviews that social justice is integral to Mormon teaching too.

Kent P. Jackson, associate dean of religion at Brigham Young University, said in an interview: “My own experience as a believing Latter-day Saint over the course of 60 years is that I have seen social justice in practice in every L.D.S. congregation I’ve been in. People endeavor with all of our frailties and shortcomings to love one another and to lift up other people. So if that’s Beck’s definition of social justice, he and I are definitely not on the same team”….

This afternoon I watched the most interesting thing develop on a large well known Christian discussion board. Someone started a thread concerning Beck and his recent call for Christians to ‘leave their Church if…’

A few of the early comments included,

.. for Beck to be telling Christians to vacate their church is kind of strange. Who is he to tell Christians to leave their churches?

..there are many people on this board who like glenn beck, but i think he is someone to watch out for. he went from catholicism to mormonism, which is a cult. he is in no position to be telling christians what they should or shouldn’t be doing.

…this isn’t about feelings this is about discernment, and any message glenn beck has must be measured in light of his personal belief system. this is a christian forum, and mormonism is a cult.

After a few more similar comments which questioned Beck’s spiritual qualifications to instruct the Church, a moderator stepped in and posted a very long comment with information on what, Mormonism? No, an article titled  “Barak Obama’s Liberation Theology”

By page two in the thread, no longer was anyone questioning Beck’s authority to instruct the body of Christ on his TV or radio programs. The comments now centered on Obama, Rev. Wright,

Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s former “pastor” lives in a $3 million home he built last year. So much for all that wealth redistribution….. Oh that’s right, he wasn’t speaking of himself, just white Americans.

The Obama’s also had their own personal chief and have a nice home in Chicago…

Ending with,

I have to admit I was a bit concerned when I started reading this thread yesterday. Listening to Beck now, and after listening to him and reading the information ___ provided I think Glenn is spot on.

It was an interesting and disturbing exercise, watching how easily God’s sheep can be manipulated.

Something to think about…

“Sheepherders train a bellwether to lead the rest of the sheep, sometimes to their destruction. The leader is drilled to respond to his master’s whistle, then wherever the ‘wether’ goes, the rest of the sheep follow. By this means an entire flock is enticed to board a truck. After it is loaded, the gate is closed and then the bellwether is whisked out of the truck by a different route, only to be used to lead another flock into another truck. In this manner an entire herd has been loaded and dispatched on its way to the slaughterhouse.

What exactly is a “bellwether”? It is the leading sheep of the flock which leads the rest of the sheep to their destruction.

Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary also includes this general definition – “one that takes the lead or the initiative; an indicator of trends.”

If the “bellwether” is raised up by God to be an “initiator” or an “indicator of trends” in the Body of Christ, that is one thing; but to have such a one in a crucial position of authority raised up by Satan is a matter of great concern.

There have been many leaders who were placed in positions of authority who had such power and influence over a people. But how devastating it was when they were raised up by Satan, for they swiftly led the people away from God’s purpose for their lives and into every imaginable evil.

These Satanically-inspired “bellwethers” do not necessarily have to be preachers or ministers.

They simply are “false,” “deceitful,” “unruly,” “vain,” and “ungodly” leaders placed across our paths in some way, shape, or form; if it be in the church, job force, friendly neighborhood atmosphere, media, sports realm, entertainment field, or music industry.

It cannot be overly stressed that Satan’s personal “bellwether” for your life does not necessarily have to be someone found in a pulpit or in the church house.

Excerpts taken from Satan’s Bellwether

“When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice.” John 10:4

“I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.” John 10:14

25 comments on “Christians Urged to Boycott Glenn Beck

  1. Saints,

    “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18)

    In 1830, Joseph Smith taught men could evolve to be God. [18. Mormon Cartoon Banned, T. 0:01-6:12] This founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Ladder Day Saints, declared Christianity apostate. He claimed to be the prophet of the only true church on earth. He taught there are many planets ruled by gods who were once human. Smith prophesied the Father was once a man who evolved to be God. According to Brigham Young, the second false prophet of this cult, God the Father was Adam the first born of the human race. [19.Teachings Of Brigham Young- Adam God Doctrine, 1:30-1:48] Smith and Young denied Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit. This is why Mormons deny Jesus as the only begotten Son of God. They believe they too will become God. Satan has sown this lie from the beginning of the human race.

    “For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God….” (Gen. 3:5)

    Lets stand for the doctrine of Christ, Paul

  2. I tend to agree, some do need to leave their churches, the depend on their Pastors,instead of God.. we are the church ,our bodies are the temples of God, not a man made “church”….most are just ways of entertainment… easter egg hunts, Christmas parties, and ever Halloween stuff all pagan holidays…. Nothing about what a man really needs to hear, like repenting and serving God.

  3. Very well said Deb. “We are the church, our bodies are the temples of God, not a man made ‘church’………….”

    Very interesting about ‘bellwethers’ pj, having never come across that description. I have met a lot of them in my lifetime though, both good ones and bad ones. They can be VERY influential.
    It is so very easy to find oneself admiring a person to the point of taking on board their views and opinions, hence the potential for total deception. Sadly the ‘church’ has become exactly that.

  4. Personally, I don’t think Glenn Beck is speaking out against the charitable works of churchs or individuals. There is such a thing as social justice in which all men treat their neighbors with fairness and equity. What Glenn Beck is speaking out against is Government Mandated Social Justice, and any church who sponsors such a program.

  5. Conservative Christian dominionism finds its roots in John Calvin who ruled Geneva with an iron fist in the 1500s and burned at the stake anyone who disagreed with him. And yet amazingly people still guide their lives by the doctrines he enumerated in his Institutes of Religion. The Mormons have shown themselves just as cruel and the state of Utah reflects dominionism through and through. No wonder Glenn Beck sees protestant evangelicals as fertile ground for his heresies.

  6. shematwater :

    Personally, I don’t think Glenn Beck is speaking out against the charitable works of churchs or individuals. There is such a thing as social justice in which all men treat their neighbors with fairness and equity. What Glenn Beck is speaking out against is Government Mandated Social Justice, and any church who sponsors such a program.

    The point is Glenn Beck has no spiritual authority to tell Christians to do anything. He is lost…

  7. Glenn Beck is crazy. This is one of the resons why I’m no longer listen to his radio show nor his TV show.

  8. Glen Beck was on the radio today making fun of fundamental Christians. This is because he believes the only true believers in Jesus Christ are Mormons. The utter lack of discernment on this deceiver who denies Jesus as the only begotten Son of God, believes God the Father was once a human man that had sex with Mary and they had Jesus, and denies the trinity, has any right to judge Christianity is beyond me. Wake up saints this man is a heretic sowing false doctrine denying our Lord.

  9. George Mitchell: I have exactly the same thoughts about Calvin and those who follow his traditions today. How about the fact that he and his magisterial reforming buddies hunted down, tortured, and put to death other true saints of God and Jews, and laughed about it? Being a bit off or incomplete in our understanding is one thing, that can be understood, but murder in Christ’s name–of other disciples of Jesus–I can’t understand how so many people can just sweep this under the rug. I cannot divorce a man’s teaching from the man’s character. Both must evidence Jesus.

  10. The heart of the problem here is that Glenn Beck is urging these people to leave their churches and go where instead? To a church where the Gospel of Christ is preached? No, to a church with an agenda as radically conservative as their current church might be liberal. And I am not using the word “conservative” in a religious sense, but rather in a conservative sense. He is simply using his pulpit as a commentator to try to hound people into the conservative dominionist band wagon. They could care little about the Gospel. What they care about is morality, morality that suits their agenda, of course. And they most certainly DO have an agenda behind these things. Personally, as I have indicated before, I think ANYBODY in a church that is pushing ANY kind of political agenda should get out and move to a church where the Gospel is the be all and end all. A place where the Word of God is taught sincerely in a way that speaks to all ends of the political spectrum with authority. Spiritual authority, not fleshly authority. Authority that is life changing. The Dominionist agenda is to replace our hope in Christ’s return as outlined in Thessalonians, with a cheap humanist (“Christianized” of course) utopia in its place. The reality as taught clearly in scripture is that it is ONLY our Lord’s return that will bring peace to this world. No amount of “Christian” effort is going to make that happen. Excessive “Christian” effort can and will, of course bring, the Antichrist upon us and that will, of course, hasten the Lord’s return. So, like the role played by Judas, its all in the plan of God. So the mark of the beast is available to those who are clambering for it.

  11. good comment George

  12. You know, I think the real problem with what Glenn Beck is saying is that he is a “Mormon,” a member of the detestable, vile cult. It is not in what he said, but who he is. As you say, he has no spiritual authority, at least as far as anyone here is concerned.

    I wander what people would say if a random pastor on a Christian radio show siad the same thing?

  13. In the Timothy and Titus accounts, there are certain character requirements listed for those in authority. These days, those things don’t seem to matter any more. That is why it is so important for believers to know the scriptures and apply them, and also to know the writings of the early church fathers, the complete history of the Christian Church, and the underlying moral character AND doctrinal fidelity of any “Christian leader”, past or present, they OR those around them are following. Paul Bortolazzo has been banging away on seemingly deaf ears in this regard concerning Glenn Beck, but what he has been pointing out is EXTREMELY important. Every scripture that encourages us to critically examine the fruits and works that a man leaves in his wake is these days minimized. Everything is about power and charisma and taking authority. And their is no questioning as to from whence this “authority” is flowing. Most often, it is indeed the bellwether. The wolf in the sheepskin rounding up the lambs for the slaughter. And they intimidate their victims by accusing any that question their authority. But remember, biblically the leaders are to be held to a higher standard, but that principle is being violated to the extreme in the church today. Satan’s slaughterhouse is running in overdrive as a result.

  14. Shemawaite, Glenn Beck is delusional, I don’t care if he’s a member of “The Church of What’s happenin’ now”

    • B, i really do believe he suffers from delusions.

      I’ll be frank and tell you something i’ve never said in any posts concerning Glenn Beck.When i’ve tuned into his TV program, im only able to watch small portions at a time. The reason being, my spirit becomes instantly alert–and the same reaction i’ve experienced when in the presence of one demonized, is what i experience when watching him.

      Now, i can read his transcripts without that type of reaction. So i have known for months its actually him–the ‘spirit’ which is operating in him. This is why i have posted messages (on occasion)concerning how dangerous he is to Christians.

      My “knower” which is the blessed Holy Spirit, goes off like an alarm B..warning me..

  15. Amen PJ!!!
    In my experience as a missionary in Russia, Ukraine, and Lithuania, Ive found the demonic deception of Mormons just as powerful as JW’s. Yet the Russians would constantly testify how phony the love of Mormons really is. For those who want to learn about how antichrist LDS dogma really is just check out this short Youtube called, Mormon Cartoon Banned, T. 0:01-6:12)[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q6brMrFw0E]

  16. Pj said “my knower” which is the blessed Holy Spirit, goes off like an alarm B..warning me”. I LIKE IT! There is NO OTHER ANSWER than the inner knower, Amen pj. When we really do learn to hear and understand the knower’s voice, it matters not if anyone else contradicts us.

    You touched the heart of the matter dear sister, thank you and be blessed.

    • When we really do learn to hear and understand the knower’s voice, it matters not if anyone else contradicts us.

      Amen, amen RoT.

      I don’t know if it comes across here, but im a peace loving person. ahahaha…

      And believe me, i sure don’t like posting things i know will bring out people who leave comments telling me im insane, a hypocrite, going to hell, etc etc etc. But, when ‘you know that you know’, because the Spirit of God has shown you, you can’t give heed to others who may disagree.

  17. yes, it works the other way too – I meet lots of people in my work and sometimes I just know when I meet someone who is a Christian – and it’s been proved to be true.

  18. The New York Times did what people of both sides of the isle have done for years and that is post just enough of someones quote to make for a juicy article but not enough of the quote to tell the whole truth. Happens every day!! Whether we crop a photo to change the impact to suit us or leave out important information to mislead, the outcome is the same, dishonesty. No one has clean hands in this battle.

    I get e-mails all the time from so called believers that are slanted or outright dishonest attempts to push a point for their cause or side but have very little resemblance to the original truth in it. Do you ever wonder why Snopes is in business at all?

    The New York Times has an agenda just as do most papers and news outlets. I am no great fan of Beck but I will give him the benefit of the doubt after reading his own words on the Times story. Truth is important to me. I think the Times was not as honest as they should have been in this. Beck may be a Mormon and very weird but it does not disqualify him from having his statements put in the proper context.

    • As far as what he actually said, i listened to it. No one that i have read [so far] has misquoted him.

  19. PJ,
    I never said or even insinuated that he was misquoted. Sensationalism wants this quote to be the object of the full story, which it is not. I give the news media no points for objective reporting. While looking for the truth of this quote I even found an article slamming him for this quote while at the same time saying that the quote WAS taken out of context. Should not be, but it’s the way the society as a whole has decided to deal with the opposition and that being lies, half truths and character attacks. Sad to say believers have also become engaged in this deplorable behavior. Even in the above YouTube clip we get maybe 30 seconds of Beck talking. Not an honest assessment of his thoughts on the subject.

    I think we need to defend the truth even if we have problems with the messenger. This statement by itself is stupid. But put into the complete context of his thoughts at the time makes complete sense and I can agree with it’s actual intent, not it’s sound byte dishonesty.

    • Solar, you’re free to agree with Glenn Beck’s assessment. But understand, i refuse for a number of reasons which have already been pointed out.

      The church has the Holy Spirit who will lead us into all truth, and who will reveal things to us through the word and on occasion, through other “believers”. We don’t need to listen to voices who are speaking by another spirit. For even demons sprinkle a pinch of truth on top of their lies.

      And Glenn Beck has another spirit guiding him.Its for this reason he is dangerous, now that he has made this weird connection with many within the body of Christ.

      Beck tells his listeners to ‘run from your church, if….’

      My advice is run like your pants are on fire from the Glenn Becks of this world, for they will lead you away from truth and ultimately, away from Christ.

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