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Documentary, “With God On Our Side”


In a previous post it was mentioned I would post my thoughts on the documentary (With God on our Side) after watching it. Its now been almost 2 weeks since sitting down early one morning to view it.

During these past 2 weeks I have thought of what (more) I could add to Adam’s excellent review, along with his post critiquing Jan Markell’s disturbing review, and realized not much: Adam did an exemplary job at covering everything in this film which points out the dangers associated with Christian Zionism. I hope you will read BOTH posts and follow the links he has included.

One personal experience in particular in this film, summed it up for me.

Correct me if I’m wrong Adam (my copy is now being passed around) but I believe this was told by a pastor…

It concerned a trip he made outside the region, in response to an invitation received, to speak at a Church. He tells of how warmly his talk was received…and of the Church members approaching him afterward to express their joy at his coming.

One man exuberantly approached him, believing he was a Jew, offered his hand, saying how happy he was to have heard him speak because he loved all Jews, etc etc…

This pastor said he replied, ‘Yes, I too love them! But I am not a Jew but a Palestinian’

The man quickly dropped this Palestinian Christians hand, turned and walked away.

THAT, my fellow believers and followers of Jesus Christ, is the rotten fruit of “Christian” Zionism.

If it was feasible, I would purchase multiple copies, and free of charge, mail you a copy of this documentary. But, as that is not possible, my hope is you can somehow obtain a copy. You won’t regret it.

Trailer:

39 comments on “Documentary, “With God On Our Side”

  1. I would say that this is also just one more example of pervasive racism in the church. Racism these days is not “in your face” like in the days of segregation and apartheid, rather it is subtle and usually quite hidden, but it comes out in shocking ways like in what people say when they think the mike is off and what people do in those unscripted moments. And as you pointed out before, this type of behavior is encouraged by false prophets in and out of the church.

  2. Thank you PJ … We ordered the DVD this morning. I will also post this information on my blog. There’s also a study guide that is available online …

    Click to access WGOOS%20Study%20Guide.pdf

    • Thank you Cathy!…i wasn’t aware of the study guide. 🙂

      After watching it, i hope you’ll share your thoughts too.

  3. PJ,

    Thank you. I’m glad to hear that you were impacted by this excellent film, and that you’ve been able to get it into the hands of others.

    Yes, I believe you were accurate in describing what our brother experienced when he revealed at one church that he was a Palestinian and not a Jew. That says a lot. And you’re right–this type of partiality is just one of the rotten fruits of the false theology known as Christian Zionism.

    I’m also glad that you included the latest film trailer to “With God On Our Side.” I so appreciate the work of reconciliation being done by Salim Munayer, who is featured at the end of that clip.

  4. I had already read Adam’s review and thought it excellent – thanks Adam. I purchased the dvd but then gave it to one of our elders who is starting up a new project called Bridge “encouraging, equipping, envisioning Arabic believers in Europe” here in the UK. He and his team have recently run a four week seminar on Sunday evenings (instead of “ordinary church”) teaching about Islam and trying to help us get rid of our stereotypes and learning how we can witness to them. I found the series very helpful. He told me he took the dvd when travelling abroad (Switzerland if I recall correctly) and showed it in a public place where it was received well. I’ll ask him if he will share more with me about that as I didn’t get much information when talking to him. From what I recall myself about the dvd I can recall being moved because so often I attempt in my small way to study, and to struggle with, the theory and the theology but these were real people talking about issues that affect their daily lives (e.g. the women sharing about maternity care and that they worry they might have difficulty in getting to hospital).

  5. Where did you purchase Jan, it’s on my husband’s ‘really really want’ list? (I would like to view it too 😉 of course).

  6. That ‘s really fantastic of you pj (as always). If Jan cannot help easily (I am in the UK at present), I will take you up on your offer when I am back in USA at the end of the month, OK?

    God bless you for all you are and do.

    • OK! just drop me an address.. 🙂

      I bought it not only to watch myself, but to pass on. After you guys watch, perhaps God will bring someone else to mind who you can pass it on to! (God is good!!!)

  7. Thanks Adam and thanks pj. One way or another I WILL acquire this wonderful, timely film. Can’t wait.
    I already have some people in mind who would benefit from watching…..

  8. I must be a voice of dissent on this issue. As a Messianic believer in Yeshua I feel that there may be some misinformation about the Palestinian situation. If we believe all that the mainstream media tells us, we can get the idea of that they are truly living in horrible conditions. The FLAME newsletter tries to dispel the misconceptions of Gaza as a refugee camp and shows that most people there are living quite well. I haven’t seen the film, but am familiar with Jan Markel’s ministry. Hats off to those in the Church who are supporting the State of Israel-She is the apple of God’s eye and He has not forgotten her-some comment about why did He allow them to be dispersed throughout the world may be so that the fullness of the Gentiles could come into the Kingdom. God has a plan for His people and I think it rather presumptuous on the part of the Church to try to take the Jews’ place as spiritual Israel. As a parenthetical note, we left the Church 10 years ago-are celebrating God’s feasts as ordained in the Bible and worship Him on Saturday, His Shabbat.

    • As a parenthetical note, we left the Church 10 years ago-are celebrating God’s feasts as ordained in the Bible and worship Him on Saturday, His Shabbat.

      It sadly sounds as though you are caught up in the deception known as the Hebrew Roots movement. I would recommend you read:

      “O foolish Galatians..”- From Christianity to Judaism

      The Hebrew Roots Movement

      More on the Hebrew Roots Movement

      ….we left the Church 10 years ago….

      Then according to the Biblical view of Church, you left the body of Christ;

      THE BIBLICAL VIEW

      A. EXPLANATION OF THIS VIEW…

      1. There is the Church of Christ in the “universal” sense

      a. Composed of all Christians
      1) The church to which Jesus referred in Mt 16:18
      2) Made up all the saved, both living and dead – cf. He
      12:22-24
      b. There is just one
      1) The universal church is called the “body” of Christ – Ep
      1:22-23
      2) There is only one “body” (Ep 4:4); therefore, only one
      church!
      c. Began on the Day of Pentecost
      1) In Jerusalem, following the death, resurrection and
      ascension of Christ – Ac 2:1-47
      2) As Peter later referred to this day, it was the
      “beginning” – cf. Ac 11:15
      d. Enter only by being added by the Lord
      1) One cannot “join” the church by their own volition
      2) Rather, they are “added” by the Lord Himself when saved
      – Ac 2:41,47
      e. The Lord keeps the books of membership
      1) There is no agency on earth that keeps the registry of
      true members
      2) Enrollment is in heaven; only the Lord knows those who
      are truly His – He 12:23; 2Ti 2:19
      f. Consists of all the saved
      1) The Lord is presenting to Himself a church holy and
      without blemish – cf. Ep 5:25-27
      2) Those in the church who are sinning and refuse to repent
      are “cut off”, “cast out”, “spewed out” – cf. Jn 15:2,6;
      Ro 11:19-22; Re 3:16
      g. Must be in this to be saved
      1) For the Lord is the Savior of the “body” (which is His
      church) – Ep 5:23
      2) Since the Lord adds one to His church when they are
      saved, one cannot be saved and not be in the church
      universal!
      h. Has no earthly organization
      1) The church universal has organization – cf. Ep 2:19-22;
      1Pe 2:5
      a) What organization exists is spiritual in nature
      b) E.g., Christ as the cornerstone, together with His
      apostles and prophets as the foundation, and all
      Christians as “living stones”

      2) There is no earthly headquarters for the church
      a) E.g., no telephone number to call to speak with the
      “head” of the church
      b) For the Head and His headquarters are in heaven!
      i. Can’t be divided
      1) For there is no earthly organization to divide!
      2) If division appears to exist…
      a) Some unscriptural organization of churches must have
      been created
      b) Such organizations can have division, but not the
      Lord’s church universal!
      3) Those who would seek to divide the church are simply cut off by the Lord Himself!

      4) There is and always will be, “one body”! – Ep 4:4 (we need to make sure we are remaining faithful to be in it!)
      j. Death doesn’t affect membership
      1) The church universal is made up of the saved, both living
      and dead – He 12:22-23
      2) When one dies, they are still with Christ! – Php 1:21-23;
      1Th 5:10
      k. Does not have one official name
      1) No one exclusive name or term is used to describe the
      universal church
      2) Various terms used include church of God, body, kingdom,
      etc.- 1Co 10:32; Ep 1:22-23; Col 1:13

      I haven’t seen the film

      You should. Don’t take Jan Markel’s (or anyone else’s) opinion as fact—in the case of Jan Markel, her opinion comes from the theological viewpoint of Christian Zionism. Which by the way, is not biblical.

      I pray you, with the Holy Spirit’s guidance, find your way back to the truth.

    • Mary,

      In addition to PJ’s very good response to what you have said here, I’d like to pose a couple of questions and add a couple of points in the hope that there will be further thought and reflection. You said, as does Jan Markell, that “the State of Israel” is the apple of God’s eye. I understand that this is a reference to Zechariah 2:8, where it is said of Jerusalem in Zechariah’s day, “…for he who touches you touches the apple of My eye…” I’ll copy and paste here what I said in response to Jan Markell’s assertion on this point:

      If Jan is correct in her assertion that the modern, political, secular nation of Israel is “the apple of God’s eye,” then who was the apple of God’s eye from 70 AD until 1948 when there was no nation of Israel? Did nearly 19 centuries pass without God having a special possession to call His own? This time period covers much of the present church age, so what is the Church in God’s eyes? Chopped liver? On the other hand, this is the testimony of the New Testament regarding the Church, which is made up of believing Jews and Gentiles alike: “But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for His own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light” (I Peter 2:9). We need not look any further to discover who can rightly be called the apple of God’s eye.

      Mary, God does indeed have a plan for His people (i.e. the body of Christ), and it centers around His Son, Jesus, and the work He did on the cross. “For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing His riches on all who call on Him” (Romans 10:12). As Peter declares, His people have been called out of darkness and now have the privilege of proclaiming His excellencies to those who are still in darkness. Unbelieving Jews are just as lost as unbelieving Gentiles. They remain in darkness, and cannot carry out any such calling. They cannot be God’s people, that is, outside of trusting in Christ.

      Furthermore, regarding Jerusalem, we can see how the New Testament speaks of earthly Jerusalem in contrast to heavenly Jerusalem. For example, in comparing the Old Covenant to the New Covenant, the apostle Paul uses the analogy of two women (see Galatians 4:21-31). One is a slave woman, representing the flesh (verse 23), and corresponding to Mount Sinai and earthly Jerusalem (verses 24-25). The other is a free woman, representing promise (verse 23), and not only corresponding to heavenly Jerusalem but also called the mother of those who trust in Christ (verse 26). The slave woman was to be cast out without any inheritance, but the free woman would inherit the promise(s) along with her “son” (verse 30). Those who are in Christ are referred to by Paul in this passage as “children…of the free woman” (verse 31). This is a profound passage, and not unrelated to “the apple of God’s eye” discussion at hand.

      See also Hebrews 12:18-28, especially verses 22-24 which convey this message to the Church:

      …But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, and to Jesus, the Mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel…

      I think it rather presumptuous of dispensationalism, Christian Zionism, and the Hebrew Roots Movement to take the place of the Church as spiritual Israel and to attempt to assign that place to all ethnic Jews and/or the political nation of Israel.

      PJ, I really enjoyed the Biblical View of the Church which you outlined in your response. Is this something you put together, or is it sourced from anywhere else? It’s very good.

  9. Is it on DVD or theater? Pardon my cluelessness.

  10. PJ, I will definitely share my thoughts after viewing. (My husband ordered the DVD online from Amazon but it hasn’t arrived yet.

    Adam, My blog address is …

    http://giannina.wordpress.com

  11. To answer your remarks, we have NOT left the Body-we are very much believers in Yeshua (Jesus) as Messiah-that has not changed. We have left a church rooted in paganism from Christmas to Easter (Ishtar). A church that purposely took out all of the Jewishness of the faith and substituted customs NOT ordained by G0d. The book Children of God by Raymond Robert Fischer explains in detail the hijacking of the Christian faith. The Hebrew roots movement is not a deception if one carefully avoids the rabbinic teachings and orthodoxy. We consider ourselves Karaite believers following the Scriptures alone, NOT the doctrines of man-either in the Christian church or in Judaism. We have seen instances of people getting so caught up in the trappings of Judaism that they have denied Yeshua as lord-We still meet on Shabbat with like minded believers worshiping and fellowshiping as the first century church did.

    As for watching the film, I don’t think it would be worth my time-we gave up movies, tv, entertainment long ago-think graven images-not legalistic, just following what God said.

    As you gave me scores of scriptures, I would suggest to you that you try reading your Bible from the Jewish viewpoint in which it was written-not by Gentiles, but by mostly Jewish folks who heard from God. Take off the Gentile filters and actually understand what the Word is saying without the spin of the Church.

    Thank you for your interest-

    • I would suggest to you that you try reading your Bible from the Jewish viewpoint

      While i appreciate the suggestion, no thank you 🙂

      I always hope to read my bible prayerfully, seeking the view point of the One who inspired it;

      2 Timothy 3:16: “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.”

      As for watching the film, I don’t think it would be worth my time

      Then its impossible to critique its contents if you have not viewed it.

      The bottom line Mary (and you are correct in what you wrote to Adam: “I don’t think either of us will change the other’s mind” ) is you apparently see two peoples of God, where as i see only one.

      You refer to,

      “His people”

      and;

      “the Jews were dispersed for almost 2000 years, but they are still God’s people, His bride so to speak”

      Under the new covenant, God’s ‘people’ are those who are in Christ. Period. The Word never teaches there are two people(s) of God. There is still one tree, one body, one people of God, and it has nothing to do with ethnicity, nor land, but is instead, determined by each individuals position in Jesus. It is to those IN Christ that the promises are given.

      Paul, preaching to the Jews said, “we bring you the good news that what God promised to the fathers, this he has fulfilled to us their children by raising Jesus” (Act 13:32-33). In other words the fulfilment of the promise to Abraham is not future but now, in Christ.

      …he paraphrased this to say that “anyone who does not listen to him (Jesus) will be completely cut off from among his people” (Acts 3:23).

      Jesus is the appointed head of the church (i.e. assembly of Israel) and anyone who rebels against his authority is cut off from the covenant people. However, the apostle Paul taught in Romans 11 that those who are cut off from Israel on account of their rebellion against Christ have not been cut off beyond recovery and may be grafted back if they repent and believe. Jesus himself warned that if they do not believe in him they will die in their sins and remain cut off for eternity (see John 8:21-24 and Matthew 8:11-12).

      THE ISRAEL OF GOD: a consideration of so-called “Replacement Theology” by Peter Cohen

  12. PS-re: Christian zionism-I think it all boils down to what God says about blessing His people-I’ll take that over cursing them anyday!

  13. Do you know if someone gives away free? I would like to have one, but I don’t have the money to get it.

  14. To fellow Minnesotan Adam,

    Thank you for your comments, but I still don’t agree with your logic. Yes, the Jews were dispersed for almost 2000 years, but they are still God’s people, His bride so to speak. Their dispersal was for the benefit of the Gentiles, so that they (we) could come to faith in Yeshua (Jesus). We, the Gentiles are the bride of Yeshua. The nation of Israel has been “born in a day” as the scriptures say-that is one of the final pieces before the return of our Messiah. I do know that the Jews are God’s chosen ones and only He knows the plan He has for them. All I can do is pray for the veil to be lifted from their spiritual hearts and that they will see the Messiah (Mashiach) that they pray for every day will be revealed to them.

    As a footnote, I am always puzzled why the Jewishness of Yeshua is swept under the rug-from his likenesses in paintings, to even his name that has been anglicized. He celebrated the feasts of the Lord-Passover, Sukkot, Hanukkah-yet they are totally overlooked by the Church. When the woman with the issue of blood touched Him, it wasn’t the hem of His garment, it was his tsitsit-his fringes worn by most religious Jewish men.

    I don’t think either of us will change the other’s mind-but I guess we can agree to disagree.

    • Mary,

      If you’re willing to reply again, what part of Minnesota are you from? I’m living in (south) Minneapolis, as my login name suggests. It’s entirely possible that one of us might yet have a change of mind. I know my mind has been quite dramatically changed on this subject over the years, in part thanks to godly people whose words challenged my previous way of thinking.

      I wish you would stick around some more, despite having said that you left your last comment, because I would really like to have further clarification on some of your viewpoints. It seems you have suggested that Jesus has two brides, one being Jewish and the other being Gentile. I very much disagree, but I’m curious as to which Scriptures you believe suggest this.

      There are so many things that can be said about this, but focusing on the subject of Christ’s bride, I believe you’ll find that the New Testament’s teaching on this is clear. For example, speaking to the Corinthian church, Paul said, “I feel a divine jealousy for you, for I have betrothed you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ” (II Cor. 11:2). In Ephesians 5, Paul sums up his admonition to husbands and wives by saying, “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church” (Ephesians 5:31-32). Then in Revelation 21:2 we read, “And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband” (see also verses 9-10, and really the rest of the chapter). In a previous comment here, we’ve already seen that the new Jerusalem is a picture of the New Covenant Church, made up of believing Jews and Gentiles (Galatians 4:21-31, Hebrews 12:18-28; cf. Heb. 11:13-16).

      You said that the Jews are “God’s chosen ones.” I Peter 2:9-10, already quoted here, makes it explicitly clear why God’s chosen people, the body of Christ (believing Jews and Gentiles), are chosen. His people have been called out of darkness and now have the privilege of proclaiming His excellencies to those who are still in darkness. Unbelieving Jews remain in darkness, and cannot possibly carry out any such calling. Do we agree on that?

      So, in your mind then, for what purpose are the Jewish people as a race presently chosen? As PJ has well pointed out, a key question here is whether God has one chosen people for Himself, or two. I agree with PJ–He has only one, and that chosen people has a purpose which no one who does not belong to Christ could possibly fulfill.

      Interestingly, you said that God has a plan for the Jewish people which only He knows about. Is there a reason why He wouldn’t reveal such a plan in Scripture so that all could be aware of it? I believe His greatest plan for the Jewish people was fully unveiled when Jesus went to the cross, paving the way for any Jew–and any Gentile also–to call upon Him for salvation. Now in Christ Jesus, there is no distinction between Jew and Gentile, no partiality, no superiority for one group over the other, and no special plan that applies to one group and not the other (e.g. Romans 10:12-13; Galatians 3:16, 28-29; Gal. 5:6, Gal. 6:15-16).

      You also mentioned that “the Scriptures say” that the nation of Israel was born in a day. If you’re willing to continue the conversation, which Scriptures would those be and why do you believe they point to the modern nation of Israel? May the Lord give us all further clarity on these matters and keep us from ceasing to learn.

  15. Meg, Pj has kindly offered to ‘pass her copy on’ so ask her to pass to you first (before me) then you to me and I will send back to Pj. How about that? It definitely sounds a very worth while DVD to watch and learn from.

    JUST A THOUGHT….If that is ok with you pj 🙂

    IF NOT A GOOD IDEA-DELETE (No problem)

  16. PJ, final post here-not worth my time-as I said to Adam, we won’t change each other’s minds-I have made my choice, not going back to Egypt, I’m going to follow what He says in His Word, not the doctrines of man. We love God’s Chosen, we have chosen to live among them and hope someday to see them come into the Kingdom-they will make AWESOME believers in Yeshua. שלום

  17. I’m going to follow what He says in His Word, not the doctrines of man.

    Mary, in the effort to show you ‘who’ God’s people are today, the precious Word of God was both pointed to and used within the replies to your comment[s]. You never once denied OR confirmed what the Word says, but ignored it.

    I sincerely beseech you to study this topic for yourself.

    God bless

    • You’re filtering the Word through Gentile eyes-so sad-written by Jews for Jews for the most part. May you search the scriptures yourself-I’ve read the Bible through cover to cover over 25 times-no need to preach to me.

  18. Adam, thanks for your last comment. You asked Mary some very important questions. Hopefully, even if she doesn’t respond, they may cause her to reexamine the scriptures.

    (Bless you dear brother)

  19. ‘For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is , those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of promise are counted as th seed.’ Rom 9.6-8 NKJV

    ‘And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.’ Mat 16.18

    One can either believe the holy scripture which says that the ‘children of the flesh’ ARE NOT ‘the children of God’ AND that the ‘gates of Hades’ will NOT ‘prevail against the church’ or one can view the scripture with the viewpoint of those who, knowing well the Old Testament scriptures, went on to crucify Jesus. That is the bottom line here. Those buying into the dual covenant scheme are being deceived and cheated out of their salvation by believing that the blessing of God is bestowed on a genetic race as opposed to a spiritual race. This is exactly 180° from the truth.

  20. Ephesians 2:14-17
    Romans 2:28-29
    Romans 11:19-36

    Is anyone listening to Him…or just each other?

  21. Hi PJ,

    I viewed the film this past weekend and here are some of my thoughts …

    http://giannina.wordpress.com/2010/08/13/with-god-on-our-side-some-thoughts/

    Hope all is well,

  22. Thanks (again) Cathy.

    I saw you included the study guide to Onward Christian Soldiers. I hope other readers will check it out also.

    Hope all is well

    Thank you for inquiring sister….all is well.

  23. This is why I cry. See the Division? See the stubborn, stiff neck division; even among they who say they know the Father and His Heart?

    Taught by man? When God, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost got a hold on me, anything I had ever heard from man went straight down the toilet. All I know is that for the first time in my life God was speaking to me… and anything man could possibly say afterward had to AGREE with HIM and HIS Word and His other counterpart, called the Holy Ghost before I could agree with them. One day I came across scripture that seemed to contradict what I was being told; yet in prayer God showed me the error, and then confirmed His Word.

    What happened? I submitted myself to the idea that I could be wrong. It was a good idea, because too many times we, with well intentions can get caught up in ‘what God is really saying here’… when God has not said anything at all.

    One day as I was reading scripture I began to rejoice because God opened my eyes to this verse: ‘For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is , those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of promise are counted as the seed.’ Rom 9.6-8

    I remember shouting: ” Jesus, You are Israel!” and all who are IN HIM are Israel. My Jewishness has nothing to do with it, but the Whole of Jesus does.

    I know in my heart Paul probably rejoiced beyond anything we can comprehend when all those Laws of Strife fell off his back. What a sigh of relief! Yet, those scales of darkness, tightly woven over his eyes had to fall off before he was given new eyes to see, and understand.

    How can anyone ‘come into My rest’ if they do not understand the difference between the ‘church’ and the “CHURCH”?

    Mary is of poor heart in spirit… she reacts without prayer. ” don’t preach to me”… I can sit here and hear it, as I have sat inside churches hearing the same from well intended, stiff necked church people.

    Keeping the feasts is no different than what the ‘church’ does in keeping their tradition also, and is no different than a Hindu who keeps his tradition… they are of NO EFFECT.

    God’s Law is Perfect Law, and ONLY ONE was able to FULFILL the Perfect Law: Jesus.

    and I am not joyed to report this, but even the Pharisee believed in God, and so do the devils, and many other religions believe in God too, but…

    ONLY those who are BORN AGAIN in CHRIST and follow ONLY after Christ; not after what led up to the Cross, but the example of THE CROSS will be saved.

    God proves His Word/Son over and over again… thanks be to our Lord. ‘

    One final word on my part…

    not sure where it began, but I am hearing this a lot lately; even inside the requested DVD… ” I have to thank the Jews for the Word, and the Jews for my Saviour, and the Jews for”…

    pardon me here… even if God has chosen another identity to bring forth His Son, I would not be so heartfelt to give thanks to those people. Why?

    notice:
    it was God’s choice to bring forth Isaac.
    it was God’s choice to bring forth a vision to Abraham.
    It was God’s choice to make a promise to Abraham.
    it was God’s choosing of the child to whom Sarah would birth.
    it was God’s choosing of when the womb would be open.
    and when flesh chose the time and the child God did not agree.
    We do not choose what God has chosen.

    Glory be to God in the Highest this is, and was and forever will be of His Will and I thank God He chose those who brought forth His Word, and they were wonderful servants of His choosing; whether they were Jew, Gentile, Greek, Arabic, or other. Glory not in man, but GLORY in GOD.

    don’t fret it Mary, I wasn’t preaching, I was just happy to talk to people about MY GOD. ;0)

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