Christian Activity?

Wading through some of my email today I came upon Andrew Strom’s recent letter to his subscribers titled, Do Christians Love Guns. He makes some excellent points.

I am writing this because I continue to believe that US Christians are being “driven” toward something very ugly. There is a lot of nasty rhetoric flying around that is the very opposite of Christ-like. Some in America are trying to get the Christians all riled up about not being allowed to own “assault rifles” and the like. But what is so “Christian” about owning guns anyway?

Personally, I neither love nor hate guns. I used to go hunting and I owned a .22 and a 6.5 Mauser (which kicked like a mule). But they are long gone. I also have US friends with Glocks and M-16s and things – fun to do some target shooting with – but I wouldn’t want to own one. Guns to me are neither to be loved nor hated. And certainly they are nothing to do with “Christian rights” or anything of the kind. Which is why it alarms me to see high-profile believers seemingly making it a “Christian” issue that everyone should be allowed to own semi-automatic weapons.

We have spoken before about the dangers of mixing Christianity with “nationalism” – of wrapping the Bible in the flag – and calling it orthodox Christianity. This stuff is not just dangerous – it is deadly. There have been countless wars and countless millions killed down the centuries by this very thing. Mixing “patriotism” with Christianity and using that to motivate people – to get them riled up and mad enough to go “fight” somebody or riot in the streets, or whatever. Hitler used just this kind of patriotism to get himself elected. And I see this very same anger rising amongst some Christian conservatives in America. You are being “driven” toward something – and it is very ugly.

Every Christian should know that our home is in heaven – not in any particular “nation”. Our allegiance is towards GOD’S kingdom, not any kingdom on this earth. So let me very clearly spell it out-

-Saluting the flag is not a “Christian” activity.

-Singing the national anthem REAL LOUD is not a Christian activity.

-Being armed to the teeth is not a “Christian” activity.

-War-mongering is not a “Christian” activity.

-”Supporting the troops” is not a particularly ‘Christian’ activity.

-Angrily fighting for your taxes is not a “Christian” activity.

-Shouting and getting nasty over Politics is not a Christian activity.

-Constantly bad-mouthing the president is not a Christian activity – whether you agree with him or not.

In fact a lot of this involves behavior that is totally “anti” Christian.

And despite being a great political document, the US Constitution is not a “Christian” document, and therefore fighting and screaming and name-calling over that document is not a “Christian” activity either. True Christians do not stand or fall by the US Constitution. They stand or fall by the actual word of God. And that is the only piece of writing that they should ever get so stirred up about.

Friends – we have a great mixing of Nationalism and Religion going on. And it is getting uglier and uglier.

Continued Here

You may not agree with him and that’s your prerogative, but I do. It’s really getting uglier and uglier…

And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;  Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.  But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)  And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: (Ephesians 2: 1-6)



19 comments on “Christian Activity?

  1. Nationalism has become cult status.

  2. It is getting uglier and I am sad to say that this type of thinking/teaching has taken over the churches. Thanks for posting. I will post it on my blog too. Hope you are feeling better.

    • it sure is getting uglier! makes you wonder what its all leading up to Cathy…

      thanks, i am feeling better today (thank God)

  3. Valuable exhortation and correction from Andrew. Thanks pj for posting it here.

    I have grieved over seeing a stream of such shockingly ugly re-postings on facebook from a dear Brother in the Lord. I wonder if someone hijacked his fb account, or if he is being corrupted by the church he now attends. I’ll send him this post.

    • Funny you mention fb, for i too have seem similar shocking stuff posted by a brother i use to attend church with. This deception must be very powerful.

  4. I stand by my position that nationalism is idolatry.

    To say nothing of gun worship. I imagine Jesus saying, “When I said ‘He who lives by the sword’ I assumed that you’d realize that you could substitute any weapon for the sword …”

  5. Yes! May we never say we live in a Christian nation and so reflect our ideals as God’s. We must work to keep our faith above and separate from nationalism. This is what the founders were worried about. The day when nationalism would become synonymous with faith and thus ruin faith.

  6. All one has to do is read the comments on his original blog post….send shivers down my spine. I

  7. The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, along with the rest of the Bill of Rights. The Supreme Court of the United States first ruled in 2008 that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess and carry firearms.[1]

    In 2008 and 2010, the Supreme Court issued two landmark decisions officially establishing this interpretation. In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia[1][2] and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home within many longstanding prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession listed by the Court as being consistent with the Second Amendment.[3] In McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 3025 (2010), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment limits state and local governments to the same extent that it limits the federal government.[4]

    So do you believe the whole 2nd amendment should be thrown out of the Bill of Rights or just get rid of assault weapons. Do you think Christians in the early church didn’t carry weapons? I know the apostle didn’t or did they?

    It’s not the Christian I worry about but those in the WORLD who do not believe.

    • It’s not the Christian I worry about but those in the WORLD who do not believe.

      Don’t forget, anyone can claim to be a Christian….there have been people slaughtered by so-called Christians, in the name of Christ

  8. Hi pj,

    Just wanted to say that I removed the post in question. I do have a disclaimer on my blog but I probably shouldn’t have posted it anyway. I watched a youth rally held at the church on the internet and the young preacher preached a wonderful evangelistic message. That was my focus.

    Aside from the other “issues” that church is the very example of the mixture of Nationalism /Religion and they are Dispensational in their theology. I believe they use the Scofield Bible. For me, watching has given a “face” to these issues. These are born again Christians who love the Lord. They are our brothers and sisters in Christ, or so they seem to be. I guess what I’m trying to say that it has made me more sensitive to what is going on in the church and instead of getting mad it now breaks my heart. I now see the good, the bad, and the ugly. Oh Jesus, come quickly and in the meantime give us your wisdom …


    • Hi… Cathy it seems i may have misunderstood Henry’s comment. I thought he meant the link back to this post at your blog was instead taking people to the linked video he included in his comment. After checking what i ‘thought’ was the issue and seeing it did link here i just thought you’d fixed it. It sounds now, like i was way-off… if so please forgive me.

      I’m still operating at around 50% both “brain and body-wise” since coming down ill.

  9. Good work. 🙂

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