Below are two connected posts from Soul Refuge, posted today. Please read them…
American-Jewish Billionaire Sheldon Adelson Tells Rabbi Shmuley Boteach That The U.S. Should Drop Nuclear Bomb On Iran
American-Jewish billionaire Sheldon Adelson blasted President Obama over negotiations with Tehran, according to an article in the Jerusalem Post.
NEW YORK – During a panel at Yeshiva University on Tuesday evening, Sheldon Adelson, noted businessman and owner of the newspaper Israel Hayom, suggested that the US should use nuclear weapons on Iran to impose its demands from a position of strength.
Asked by moderator Rabbi Shmuley Boteach whether the US should negotiate with Iran if it were to cease its uranium enrichment program, Adelson retorted, “What are we going to negotiate about?”
Adelson then imagined what might happen if an American official were to call up an Iranian official, say “watch this,” and subsequently drop a nuclear bomb in the middle of the Iranian desert.
“Then you say, ‘See! The next one is in the middle of Tehran. So, we mean business. You want to be wiped out? Go ahead and take a tough position and continue with your nuclear development. You want to be peaceful? Just reverse it all, and we will guarantee you that you can have a nuclear power plant for electricity purposes, energy purposes’,” Adelson said.
“So a tremendous demonstration of American strength?” Boteach clarified. “So that they would get the message?”
“It’s the only thing they understand,” Adelson said.
“And do you see the current negotiations as a sign of weakness?” Boteach asked.
“Absolutely,” Adelson said. Adelson, who donated tens of millions of dollars to defeated Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney during the most recent campaign, criticized the Obama administration’s willingness to engage the Iranians diplomatically. “[It’s] the worst negotiating tactic I could ever imagine, my entire life,” he said.
[Adelson: US should drop atomic bomb on Iran By MAYA SHWAYDER, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT 10/24/2013 14:58]
Well known Christian Zionist John Hagee has made similar statements in the past regarding a preemptive attack on Iran. What would Jesus Christ have to say about this?
Here is the PBS Video where Pastor John Hagee suggests a preemptive attack on Iran:
Israeli Pre-emptive Attack On Iran? Would Jesus Christ Support It? (A Modern Day Wake-Up Call)
Once again there is a lot of talk about Israel and a possible pre-emptive attack on Iran. There was similar talk going on several years ago, when Pastor John Hagee was calling for a pre-emptive attack on Iran…
Let us stop and think about this for a few seconds at least.
When planes are dispatched into the air, and bombs are dropped, then there is a great chance that many innocent civilians will be maimed for life, or even worse, simply killed. Do you remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan? What would Jesus, the Messiah and Son of God, do in such a situation as this? Would Jesus support Israel if they eventually considered the option to attack Iran, and followed through with it? I say no. Suppose it was reversed and Iran decided to attack Israel in similar fashion, would Jesus the Messiah support the attack? I say no. Listen to what Jesus had to say about his kingdom which is spiritual in nature:
Jesus answered, MY KINGDOM is NOT of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. (John 18:36)
You see that Jesus the Messiah, was very concerned for souls, (and we should be too) and he knew that any soul (Jewish or Gentile) who died without Jesus Christ would die in their sins, and spend an eternity in a very real place called Hell. Jesus was never partial in his dealings with people, and he certainly did not exalt his own Jewish people to a higher place than any other group of people. He wanted them to know and believe in him, and the message was “repent and believe the Gospel” (Mark 1:15) When Jesus spoke with Nicodemus, the Jewish ruler, he told him that it was necessary for him to be born again of the Spirit in order to enter the Kingdom of God. (John 3:1-8) It is sad, but the majority of Jewish people refused to believe that Jesus is the Messiah, and are still outside his kingdom, and the scriptures are also very clear about that.
He came unto his own, and HIS OWN RECEIVED HIM NOT. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: (John 1:11-12)
His own (Jewish people) did not receive his testimony, and therefore they rejected him. This is not something to be taken lightly, because the scripture tells us that those who RECEIVED Jesus, were the ones who became the sons (children) of God. That group includes any person, from any part of the world, and that also includes the people in Iran, as well as the people in Israel, and everywhere else. God loved all of those people enough, that he sent his Son to die for their sins. (John 3:16-21, Romans 5:6-9, Isaiah 53:1-12) but they do have a choice as to whether they will RECEIVE Jesus for themselves. True salvation comes when a person realizes the desperate and lost condition of their own soul, and they call upon the Lord for salvation. (Romans 10:10-13)
Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come. Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come. And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for IF YE BELIEVE NOT that I AM HE, YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS. (John 8:21-24)
When Jesus the Messiah spoke to his own Jewish people, he did not hold anything back, and here he tells them that that he was going to a place to which they could not come. He was talking about going back to Heaven (He was about to be killed), and he told them that if they did not believe in him (as Messiah) they would NOT be there. They would simply die in their sins and continue on into eternal darkness. At one of the CUFI (Christians United For Israel) events a few years ago U.S. Senator Joseph Lieberman, a religious Jewish man, compared Pastor John Hagee to Moses, and the leader of a great multitude. Senator Joseph Lieberman also referred to John Hagee as a true man of God as you can see here in this VIDEO The only problem here is that Senator Joseph Lieberman does not belong to the group of people who have received the testimony of Jesus Christ. (John 1:11-12) Senator Joe still rejects Jesus as being the Messiah, and he has written a book co-authored by David Klinghoffer, another Jewish man who does not believe that Jesus is the Messiah. In fact Senator Joe mentioned Moses in his address to the people gathered at that CUFI convention, but if he truly believed Moses, then he would have received Jesus Christ! Listen to what Jesus told the Jewish people when he walked the earth:
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Christians should rebuke such suggestions and continue to try and disciple believers through the teachings of Jesus. That has become lost to the world called evangelical.
Well I’ve got some perspective here I’d like to lay forth for consideration.
First to answer the question, here’s what Jesus did say when He was being nuked you might say:
And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” And they cast lots to divide his garments. (Luke 23:34 ESV)
I want you to consider this about both Iran and Israel.
First these words undoubtedly every good Rabbi teaches politicians like Joe Lieberman who I met and listened to at the Democratic Convention in 2000 when he was candidate Lieberman:
And as they journeyed, a terror from God fell upon the cities that were around them, so that they did not pursue the sons of Jacob. (Genesis 35:5 ESV)
You see the problem don’t you? How does one negotiate with a Jewish politician who has that idea to fall back on when their heart is dead set on doing the Will of God, albeit the law covenant has been replaced with the overt Covenant of Grace established on the basis of those final Words of Jesus as Luke records them there in chapter 23 verse 34?
Here is the other practical problem I see facing the people of this age regarding Iran and Israel that bodes well for them but not for Iran when the likes of a John Hagee is encouraging a large voting block of American Dispy Christians to think about the possibility of a first strike on Iran to save America or Israel from a nuclear strike on Israel’s or the United State’s soil? Years ago I was invited to meet Ali Zehadean the nephew of then President Rafsanjani of Iran. He was kind, gentle and a decent man. I had dinner with him in a very uppety Persian Restaurant in Washington D.C. where among a few things discussed we discussed my Biblical Christianity and how it would work for me to do business with him in his country and openly share my Christian beliefs? He assured me I would be well taken care of and looked after.
The thing is I’ve done business in Israel and shared my Christian beliefs there openly to Muslims, Shiites and Sunnis, as well as Jews both orthodox and non-religious. Though none of these faiths embraced my views I never once was afraid for my security when there in Israel as I most certainly would be had I developed a business relationship with Ali in Tehran.
The reality is a very current and complex one where it requires us to be ever vigilant, smart thinkers and care not for our personal lives. This reality may be hard for some to swallow?
Where all this leaves me is squarely in these verses realizing there is something far greater at work here than a common no nonsense idea as to pick up the phone as you are getting actual real time information where your B1 stealth bomber is so when you call the current president Rounhani of Iran as the bomb ordinance explodes in his desert saying the next one will drop on downtown Tehran, now did you want to submit to the Will of the United Nations or the United States or Israel or else?
Here are the verses I have in mind that gives me peace of mind that what is really playing out on the world scene right now and in every generation is far greater than a Jewish billionaires foolish but reasonable idea:
… because of the hope laid up for you in heaven. Of this you have heard before in the word of the truth, the gospel, which has come to you, as indeed in the whole world it is bearing fruit and increasing—as it also does among you, since the day you heard it and understood the grace of God in truth, just as you learned it from Epaphras our beloved fellow servant. He is a faithful minister of Christ on your behalf and has made known to us your love in the Spirit. (Colossians 1:5-8 ESV)
I choose to believe “God is great”, to coin the Muslim phrase and believe He’s up to something good by the power of the Holy Spirit through human agents like faithful Epaphras was during the Apostle Paul’s day ministering to as great a hostile crowd as we will ever face these days.
When i read this couldn’t help but think about how Christians go on a rampage during the Christmas holidays every year now concerning stores who say “happy holidays” rather then “merry christmas”…or any of the other foolish things they become so upset about that they’ll boycott certain products, stores eateries, etc. But this?
Nope. These same Christians will stay mute (or worse, agree with the nuking of Iran). Even though real, actual lives–of both those lost and saved (their brethren through Christ) are on the line.
Welcome to “Christian America” folks. Where straining at a gnat is in vogue…and the only human life worth speaking up for is in a womb.