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Netanyahu glad deal has fallen through


Reading articles like this (and the one below) over the past few days, leaves me questioning ‘who’ exactly is making America’s foreign policy decisions.  

JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took his case against a nuclear accord with Iran directly to the U.S. public on Sunday, appearing on American TV to decry “a very bad deal” he feared the Obama administration was pursuing.

Negotiators from world powers will resume talks with Iran in 10 days after failing late on Saturday to reach agreement on an initial proposal to ease international sanctions against Tehran in return for some restraints on its nuclear program.

On CBS television’s Face the Nation on Sunday, Netanyahu said the proposed interim agreement, as “described to us by American sources”, would have allowed Iran to maintain its capability to enrich material for nuclear bombs.

“Not a good idea, not a good deal – a very bad deal,” he said, adding that the Iranians “get the hole in the tire of the sanctions and the air begins to come out”.

The interim deal fell through on Saturday after France hinted that it came short of neutralizing the threat of an Iranian nuclear bomb.

Supporters of the proposed deal say it would have been only a first step designed to lead to a more comprehensive agreement. Most sanctions would be left in place and any easing could be reversed if Iran did not continue to cooperate.

“Nobody has talked about getting rid of the current architecture of sanctions. The pressure will remain,” U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry told NBC’s Meet the Press.

“We are not blind, and I don’t think we’re stupid,” Kerry said. “I think we have a pretty strong sense of how to measure whether or not we are acting in the interests of our country and of the globe, and particularly of our allies like Israel and Gulf states and others in the region.”

Netanyahu’s relations with President Barack Obama have often been tense. An American-accented speaker of English, he has occasionally used U.S. media to make his case to the public.

Netanyahu told his cabinet on Sunday it was good that the deal had fallen through, but said he recognized there was still “a strong desire” to reach an accord with Iran and pledged an all-out Israeli effort to prevent “a bad agreement”.

Netanyahu has long issued veiled threats that Israel, widely believed to be the Middle East’s only nuclear power, could take unilateral military action against Iran, which says its atomic program has only peaceful purposes.

But many security experts believe Israel does not have the military capability to stop Iran’s nuclear drive on its own. Political analysts have said Israel would risk international isolation if it did attack while talks were under way.

U.S. officials said on Friday it was Obama who telephoned the Israeli leader in an apparent bid to calm his anger over a prospective interim deal. Kerry visited Netanyahu before flying to attend the talks in Geneva.

On Sunday, Wendy Sherman, U.S. undersecretary for political affairs, arrived in Jerusalem for consultations with Israeli officials about the Geneva talks and Iran, a U.S. official said.

Nevertheless, on Friday Netanyahu make a blistering public attack against what he said was an agreement-in-the-making.

Full article here: Israel’s Netanyahu takes case against Iran deal to U.S. TV

13 comments on “Netanyahu glad deal has fallen through

  1. PJ, in reference to your opening question (‘who’ exactly is making America’s foreign policy decisions), have you heard the testimony of former congresswoman, Cynthia McKinney, regarding the pro-Israel pledge pushed on every member of Congress? I don’t know if there is documented proof of what she says, but it’s a remarkable testimony, and it makes sense to me that it would be true in light of the way things so often play out in our national politics.

    She said that the pledge, pushed on congressional candidates by AIPAC, was a commitment “to the military superiority of Israel, to Jerusalem as the capital city, to continued aid at the level requested by Israel…” She didn’t sign it and war was declared on her. She shares a lot more than this, and one of her interviews on this subject can be viewed here:

    And another interesting article on this subject can be seen here:

    http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/resources/interviews/3143-cynthia-mckinney-former-us-presidential-candidate-blames-the-pro-israel-lobby-for-ruining-her-political-career

    • I can believe it…every word of what she said. What most Americans don’t understand is the money angle: Most all republicans (and many democrats as well) DEPEND upon money from American Jews to get elected. Some of this money comes from Israel; it’s filtered through the Israel Lobby groups (most notably the AIPAC) into the pockets of individuals or now, a number of PACs…but ultimately ends up going to candidates and/or party-heads.

      Its been a sad affair for years Adam. We think we’re electing individuals who are representing US interests when in fact money, or rather their dependence upon it, has made them sock-puppets.

      The Israel lobby (at times called the Zionist lobby or sometimes the Jewish lobby) is the diverse coalition of those who, as individuals and as groups, seek to influence the foreign policy of the United States in support of Zionism, Israel or the specific policies of its government.[1] The lobby consists of Jewish-American secular and religious groups. The most famous and visible group within the Israel lobby is the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). AIPAC and other groups within the Israel lobby influence American public policy in a variety of ways such as through education, responding to criticism of Israel, and putting forth arguments in support of Israel. The Israel lobby is known for its success in encouraging U.S. lawmakers to support the policies that it supports, such as vetoing the recognition of Palestine and the right for Israel to exist.

      AIPAC does not give donations directly to candidates, but those who donate to AIPAC are often important political contributors in their own right. In addition, AIPAC helps connect donors with candidates, especially to the network of pro-Israel political action committees. AIPAC president Howard Friedman says “AIPAC meets with every candidate running for Congress. These candidates receive in-depth briefings to help them completely understand the complexities of Israel’s predicament and that of the Middle East as a whole. We even ask each candidate to author a ‘position paper’ on their views of the US-Israel relationship – so it’s clear where they stand on the subject.”[42]

      This process has become more targeted over time according to Bard, “In the past, Jewish contributions were less structured and targeted than other interest groups, but this has changed dramatically as Israel-related political action committees (PACs) have proliferated.”[24] Among politicians considered unfriendly to Israel who AIPAC has helped defeat include Cynthia McKinney, Paul Findley, Earl F. Hilliard, Pete McCloskey, Senators William Fulbright and Roger Jepsen, and Adlai Stevenson III in his campaign for governor of Illinois in 1982.[43] The defeat of Charles H. Percy, Senator for Illinois until 1985, has been attributed to AIPAC-co-ordinated donations to his opponent after he supported the sale of AWACS planes to Saudi Arabia. Donations included $1.1 million on anti-Percy advertising by Michael Goland, who was also a major contributor to AIPAC.[43] Former executive director of AIPAC, Tom Dine, was quoted as saying, “All the Jews in America, from coast to coast, gathered to oust Percy. And the American politicians – those who hold public positions now, and those who aspire – got the message”.[44]
      Financial figures

      A summary of pro-Israel campaign donations for the period of 1990–2008 collected by Center for Responsive Politics indicates current totals and a general increase in proportional donations to the US Republican party since 1996.[45] The Center for Responsive Politics’ 1990–2006 data shows that “pro-Israel interests have contributed $56.8 million in individual, group and soft money donations to federal candidates and party committees since 1990.”[46] In contrast, Arab-Americans and Muslim PACs contributed slightly less than $800,000 during the same (1990–2006) period.[47] In 2006, 60% of the Democratic Party’s fundraising and 25% of that for the Republican Party’s fundraising came from Jewish-funded Political Action Committees. Democratic presidential candidates depend on Jewish sources for 60% of money from private sources.[48]

      source

      Over the weekend i read,

      A member of Netanyahu’s security cabinet, Naftali Bennett, plans to travel to the United States in the coming week. Bennett said he would meet dozens of members of Congress, where support for Israel is traditionally strong, to voice its deep concerns. source

      After the meeting takes place this week, take note of the political headlines afterward. In fact it’s already started. Certain long-time members of congress will be speaking out loud and strong against ANY deal with Iran. These congressmen know which side their bread is buttered. They’ve been bought and paid for in advance.

    • Wow, that Wikipedia page is quite revealing as well. There sure is a lot of manipulation, pressure, and bullying going on behind the scenes (and right in front of our eyes) to advance the Zionist agenda.

      I’m wondering if the tide is beginning to turn, though. When the Obama administration started to back away from striking Syria a couple months ago, I read that AIPAC sent 250 representatives, in a flurry of panic, to persuade the US Congress to support the strikes. (This is despite the simultaneous warnings that if the US struck Syria, then Iran would supposedly strike Israel. If that was true, then why in the world would Israel push so hard for the US to strike Syria?) AIPAC, in this case, didn’t prevail, in part because so many in the American public finally spoke up. The Obama administration also blew the whistle on Israel when they launched a small strike inside Syria, angering Netanyahu. The Obama administration also seems to be ignoring Netanyahu by pursuing a settlement with Iran which would result in sanction relief, more open correspondence, etc.

      It seems like there have been several, abrupt changes in a positive direction the last couple of months with regard to Israel’s steering of American foreign policy.

      Since Christian Zionism has had such an undue influence as well on America’s foreign policy, this further illustrates the importance of sites like yours responding Biblically to the unChristlike theology and maneuvers of the Christian Zionist movment.

    • My hope is the tide is turning Adam. Its just an observation, but i believe Netanyahu, by rushing to the US to appear on a couple of the Sunday morning political shows to openly (and unashamedly) undercut any deal our president and government was trying to make, may have been his undoing. From what im reading on many news sites on the internet, many (most!) Americans did not take this open obvious interference very well. They are angry. I’d say the comments are running 95% against Netanyahu’s interference and obvious using of our media to try to sway America’s citizens, right now. In his panic to stop a deal, i think he’s shown his true colors. He wants war, and is trying to convince a war-weary people (Americans) to convince their government to lead the way into war with Iran. I don’t think they’re buying what he’s selling–at least for now.

      Since Christian Zionism has had such an undue influence as well on America’s foreign policy, this further illustrates the importance of sites like yours responding Biblically to the unChristlike theology and maneuvers of the Christian Zionist movment

      Thanks Adam. Christian Zionist are going to have a lot to answer for one day. Not only do a number of the organizations refuse to take the Gospel to lost Jews, but they are, in my opinion, largely responsible for the continuing illegal actions taken by the Israeli government.

    • I agree that Netanyahu is showing his true colors more than ever recently (and that Christian Zionism is largely responsible for the illegal actions carried out by Israel’s government). I’m glad that such a high percentage of people are not standing for what Netanyahu is doing, and have laid aside fears of being called “anti-semitic” by voicing such thoughts. (Of course, some people really are anti-semitic, which is not a good thing, but hopefully more and more are learning that many Jews are not Zionists, and that “being Jewish” and “being Zionist” is not necessarily the same thing at all.) When the war drums were beating for strikes against Syria, I saw the same trends on various news sites, with about 95% being against the idea. It was good to see.

      Israel seems to be isolating itself more than ever, and a couple of claims that we can expect to see from the Christian Zionist camp as a result (unless things change) are that [1] America is inviting curses and divine judgments for not “blessing Israel” according to their interpretation of Genesis 12:3, and [2] that all the nations, including America, are ganging up on Jerusalem in fulfillment of Zechariah 12-14.

      The irony is that, in light of the obvious train wreck that many of Israel’s foreign and domestic policies are, one of the best ways to “bless” that nation right now would be to pray and desire that Israel seeks peace and justice for people inside and outside of its borders. Instead, Christian Zionism demands that we “bless” and fully agree with the train wreck (and all the injustice and ungodliness that it embodies), or else get hit with God’s wrath, curses, and judgments for allegedly violating Genesis 12:3.

    • Amen Adam.

      I’m glad that such a high percentage of people are not standing for what Netanyahu is doing, and have laid aside fears of being called “anti-semitic” by voicing such thoughts. (Of course, some people really are anti-semitic, which is not a good thing, but hopefully more and more are learning that many Jews are not Zionists, and that “being Jewish” and “being Zionist” is not necessarily the same thing at all.)

      Yes im glad too…and as you pointed out, being Jewish is definitely not the same as being Zionist! Over time i’ve tried to encourage readers here at the blog to visit the websites of various Israeli news organizations and read the comments left by many ethnic Jews living in Israel today, because a large percentage of them stand totally against many of the actions being taken by their government: They abhor the discrimination against Palestinian refugees, the apartheid State which Israel has become, and the constant warmonging of their Prime Minister. Many of these are Israeli citizens (Jewish) who also have supported the two-state resolution. Sadly they are considered ‘enemies’ and traitors by Zionists within their own country, but continue to speak out against the injustices they witness. You can get a sense of their fear that the actions being taken by the leaders of the current Israeli government are going to succeed in isolating their country even more then it is today.

      The irony is that, in light of the obvious train wreck that many of Israel’s foreign and domestic policies are, one of the best ways to “bless” that nation right now would be to pray and desire that Israel seeks peace and justice for people inside and outside of its borders. Instead, Christian Zionism demands that we “bless” and fully agree with the train wreck (and all the injustice and ungodliness that it embodies), or else get hit with God’s wrath, curses, and judgments for allegedly violating Genesis 12:3.

      Amen. Zionists and Christian Zionists here in the West, hold to an unconditional ‘territorial/land theology’. This was not even true under the old covenant where there were conditions (or rather covenant fidelity) demanded, and it is CERTAINLY not true under the new covenant, where land is not even mentioned literally as a promise, but only in the sense of our awaiting a ‘better country’;

      But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. Heb. 11

      I read warnings like those found in Isaiah (5:8) and Micah (2:1-5) and sometimes wonder about the future of Israel, as it is today. I also cannot understand how Christian Zionists “jive” their beliefs in the face of such warnings. How do they explain it?

  2. It seems that instead of sitting at a bargaining table with John Kerry Iran needs to form a PAC and spread some money around. That’s the sad state of foreign affairs in America.

    As an irreverent side note, they could name it the Tehran Unified Political action Committee, TUPAC 😀

    On a more serious note Israel, and other can funnel funds through trade associations. Details here- http://www.thenation.com/blog/170496/loophole-allows-saudi-arabian-businesses-spend-freely-our-election#

  3. This latest is frankly, disgusting.

    The Obama administration’s effort to save its talks with Iran has turned into a craven game of Israel outreach. John Kerry, Joe Biden and a top Treasury official had to placate Israel’s friends on the Hill yesterday, but these powerful friends, including Democrats, repeatedly cited Israeli officials’ concerns. “I’m dubious,” Chuck Schumer said of the administration’s talks; and on MSNBC this morning Kerry was reduced to bragging about how often he was on the phone with “Bibi,” the Israeli prime minister. I just got off the phone with him now, he said.

    The whole exercise is a demonstration of the centrality of Israel and its lobby inside the American discourse. What about America’s interests? And why isn’t our press making more of this question?

    Here is Chemi Shalev at Haaretz, describing Israel’s reach in the Senate:

    “Republicans blast Kerry’s ‘anti-Israeli’ Senate briefing against new Iran sanctions: Harsh rhetoric between Jerusalem and Washington continues, with the U.S. blasting Israel’s ‘unreal’ evaluations of Iran accord and Netanyahu warning that the ‘bad deal’ could lead to war.”

    see: Senators and Kerry battle over who’s on the phone to Israel

    I agree with the (as of now) 4 comments left under this sad, pitiful disclosure of how weak our elected puppet-officals are, and how they all pander to Israeli lobby groups…and personally, to BiBi himself.

    It makes me feel ashamed of this nation.

    • I feel that same shame, for these and other reasons. There really are a lot of US officials who are puppets of Israeli policy makers. It’s obvious, and it’s nothing less than a phenomenon. No other nation comes close to having its claws sunk this deep into America’s back.

      And the idea that Israel is America’s great friend and close ally is suspect as well, to say the least. For example, firsthand testimonies abound that Israel deliberately attacked the USS Liberty in 1967, killing 34 crew members and injuring 171 others. Netanyahu is quoted as saying (immediately) that the 9/11 attack in NYC was “a very good thing for Israel.” A few weeks ago, Israel attempted to launch a small strike against Syria (intercepted by Russia), apparently in an attempt to make it look like the US did it, so as to force a US-Syria conflict into fruition. And many other things could be mentioned. In Israel, for the most part, I don’t see the behavior of a friend, but rather a control agent and puppet master.

    • Amen, a puppet master. And we’ve allowed it Adam. “We”, as in our elected representatives and the media. Why? Is it fear? I’ve thought on this long and hard and fear seems to crop up as a logical explanation. Not fear of Israel but a fear of when pointing out the truth, where it concerns Israel, being looked upon as antisemitic. I use to feel that trepidation here at the blog. On many occasions i would hesitate to post something (which i felt was important) because of the fear of offending…or (of) being accused of being “anti” Israel or antisemitic. Recently i have, with God’s help, refused to give in to it. It took God reminding me that we, his followers, are suppose to be lovers of the truth.

      Many of those in the US Senate and in Congress, may battle with this same fear.

      No, Israel, or rather the Israeli Government, most certainly is not acting like a friend of America. They’ll happily reach out a hand to accept the American billion$ given to them yearly, and just as quickly bite the hand which hands it to them. That is not a ‘friend’ in any sense of the word. They are very aware that the American people do not want to enter into another war in the middle-east, but continue to push and maneuver those in Washington, in the direction of another war. The 1967 USS Liberty attack? What attack, i ask sarcastically; Its something people here in America pretend never happened.

      A few weeks ago, Israel attempted to launch a small strike against Syria (intercepted by Russia), apparently in an attempt to make it look like the US did it, so as to force a US-Syria conflict into fruition

      Yes, i read a slew of articles written by those “in the know” who claimed this was fact. Don’t know if you heard a word about it on the nightly news, but i sure didn’t. Guess we’re suppose to act like it never happened.

      Don’t know if you caught this article posted last week. I actually saved it with the intent of possibly posting it. I believe this author is correct in many of his observations, what do you think?

      see: Israel Has Reached Childhood’s End — It’s Time to End U.S. Aid to Israel

    • PJ, my wife and I don’t have a TV, so I didn’t hear about the attempted Syrian strike on the nightly news.🙂 I saw the reports online, and I thought one of them was a mainstream news site (like CNN, ABC, etc.), but I could be remembering wrong.

      That was an interesting article from Huffington Post. Thanks for sharing it. What a revealing statement Netanyahu made back in 1996. I had no idea he said such a thing at the time – that was 17 years ago. I agree with the author that other nations have a far greater genuine need of aid than Israel does. I also agree that America should respond accordingly in light of Israel doing much to undermine efforts to peacefully resolve the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and the situation with Iran. Overall, I thought it was a good article.

    • Well, even if you guys had a TV you’d probably still be waiting to hear about it…aha.

      Yes, i thought the author made some excellent points in the article. And like you, i’d never read or heard anything before that article, about Netanyahu’s statement in 1996. Someone needs to remind him of what he said, don’t you think? Wonder how he’d respond if a reporter brought it up.

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