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Disgusting quote of the day..


In my lifetime Presidents have always been attacked by those who either don’t agree with them on issues, or by people who just ‘plain’ don’t like them personally. That’s fine–it comes with the job I’m sure.

But I never recall a sitting President’s Mother being smeared.

It’s no fault of the president that he has no natural instinct or blood impulse for what the America of “the 57 states” is about. He was sired by a Kenyan father, born to a mother attracted to men of the Third World.. (The Washington Times – columnist Wesley Pruden)

How sleazy, offensive, and xenophobic.

Wesley Pruden needs his mouth washed out, his mind and heart renewed, and a few lessons on civility and manners.

Disgusting…

All these folks are running around crying they ‘don’t recognize their country anymore’–well you know what? I don’t either–but it’s not for the same reasons they give.

Enough said..

32 comments on “Disgusting quote of the day..

  1. I can appreciate what you’re saying PJ and I agree that this is disgusting but you must have missed the frequent smears against Barbara Bush

    Like this one > http://newsbusters.org/node/4600

    Or maybe this one > http://blogcritics.org/video/article/barbara-bush-worried-about-wasting-that/

  2. Steve Lumbley is correct on this one. I also remember the nonsense about UCLA’s not allowing George W. Bush’s wife to speak at some minor graduation ceremony. So this is par for the course.

    Incidentally, I don’t think that Wes Pruden is a professing Christian. Correct me if I am wrong, however.

  3. Hi Steve..

    I never doubted extremist non-news sources posted ugly (horrible) things about past first ladies, or as in Mrs. Bush’s case former first ladies. (By the way, i hope you understand why i deleted one of your links–i did check it out–that website is vulgar and so was that article–uck!)

    What is disgusting is the Washington Times presents itself as a legitimate news source and Wesley Pruden as a journalist.

    It was bad enough to see non-legitimate news source, World ‘Nut” Daily, repeatedly posting stories which hinted the president was born a ‘bastard’ or worse: (link).

    We’ve entered a season of sleazy disgusting journalism–and people seem to love it.

  4. Does a man’s upbringing influence his worldview? If so (and there is no other answer), then Obama’s upbringing (and that of every would-be political leader) warrants review and discussion. I do not see any demeaning references or name calling in the quote you extracted from the Washington Times. Pruden is not as PC as mainstream reporters, that is certain. But “sleazy, offensive, and xenophobic”? You’re kidding!

    • No im not kidding one bit Manfred–

      Its sleazy, offensive, and its xenophobic.

      Obama’s upbringing (and that of every would-be political leader) warrants review and discussion.

      Really? says who? And when…before a person is elected or during the time he is in office?

      If people feel the need to check out a candidate’s ‘pedigree’ let it be before an election.

      Maybe we need to begin checking out everyone’s pedigree…that of every US citizen to make sure they’re all full blooded patriotic Americans.

      Do i sound perturbed? You ‘betcha…’

  5. Wanted to pass this along as its somewhat related–and actually worse as its coming from Christians:

    A Prayer for President Obama – Psalm 109

    There is a verse being thrown around the blogsophere concerning President Obama:

    Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
    Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
    Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
    Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour.
    Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children.
    Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.
    (Psa 109:8-13 KJV)

    see The Church of Jesus Christ

  6. pj,

    “sleazy, offensive, and its xenophobic” is a very complex, pejorative phrase – one that begs for substantiation. Just because you say so doesn’t convince anyone who is not aligned with your presupposition. To report that Obama had a Kenyan father is sleazy? That his mother was attracted to third world men is xenophobic? To report that Obama said this country had 57 (or was it 58?) state is offensive? Not to be unkind, but I think you’re daft.

    As for ‘Obama’s upbringing (and that of every would-be political leader) warrants review and discussion.” I said it 🙂 Any student or reporter of politics knows that one looks into the candidate’s background – all the way back to his childhood – to see what influences acted on him and what strengths or weaknesses they may provide. Have you not paid attention to anything in this realm in the past 50 years?

    • Not to be unkind, but I think you’re daft.

      I’ve been called worse Manfred.

    • To assert that his mother’s attraction to men from the Third World is clearly an assertion that there is something wrong with her for doing so.

      This is low-ball politics. Granted, it’s been done before, such as the people who called Bill Clinton’s mother “trailer trash.”

      If you disagree with Pres. Obama — great! So do I! But that doesn’t mean that he was messed up from birth.

  7. How about this for “sleazy, offensive, and its xenophobic”? In 1995, I put a sign on my car that said “Pro-Choice! Abort Clinton mid-term.” I’m thinking about bringing it back for this alleged president.

  8. “Sired by a Kenyan father”

    Yeah, so?

    “born to a mother attracted to men of the Third World.. ”

    Oh, I get it! She’s obviously some kind of freak because she liked non-white men.

    In what way is this NOT racist? Really …

  9. http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/washington-times-faces-eeoc-complaint-from-editor-richard-miniter.php?ref=fpa

    I do not even regard the Wash times as a serious paper. It is owned by Rev Moon.

    Pruden’s word are offensive. I’m afraid if our responses are “they did it to Bush too” something is wrong. Christians need to be clearly against all that is wrong regardless to time or the white house holder. Just speak the truth. It will enhance our credibility.

    • Thanks for the link Yemi…you’re right, i realize now its not a serious paper.

      After reading Wesley Pruden’s “pedigree”, i can now see where he’s coming from:

      He was raised in a home in which his father was the Chaplin for the Arkansas chapter of the White Citizens Council, an adjunct of the Ku Klux Klan.

      Pruden’s word are offensive. I’m afraid if our responses are “they did it to Bush too” something is wrong. Christians need to be clearly against all that is wrong regardless to time or the white house holder. Just speak the truth. It will enhance our credibility.

      Yes i agree Yemi.

  10. pj,

    I find it amusing that you respond to my intentional slight of you personally, but you consistently refuse to answer the substantive questions posed. Do you have nothing but your opinion in this matter on which to rest?

    • I have the way i was raised Manfred: Raised to be respectful of people–even those i may disagree with.

      The article along with its author, is disgusting, sleazy, and yes, xenophobic.

  11. I agree that the fella who owns the Washington Times taints the newspaper – same as Ted Turner and all owners do. And certainly Pruden’s background gives insight into his worldview – same as that of Obama. Such details do not – in and of themselves – serve to debunk or invalidate what he wrote. Ad homonym attacks are never on target.

    Nobody yet has explained why Pruden’s comments were offensive, et.al – only that they were and that he’s this and that and so’s his boss.

  12. pj,

    Your last commetn – “I have the way i was raised Manfred: Raised to be respectful of people–even those i may disagree with.

    “The article along with its author, is disgusting, sleazy, and yes, xenophobic.”

    “Raised to be respectful of people–even those i may disagree with.” – that’s a good thing. I am not defending Pruden’s choice of adjectives – certainly not PC; nor rightly respectful. I grant you that.

    But xenophobic? Really?
    xen⋅o⋅pho⋅bi⋅a
    –noun
    an unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange.

    You see that in Pruden’s statements?

    Again – what is sleazy, disgusting, or xenophobic? Lacking a Christian (for lack of a better term) respect, does that mean his statements are then “sleazy, disgusting, and xenophobic”? I can’t get there. I would like to understand how you do so.

  13. It’s too bad that he put that part in the article regarding Obama’s mother because it took away from the crux of the article about Obama that was right on. The incident once again showed how clueless and out of his league Obama is. The shot at his mother just gives people a reason to dismiss the rest of the article…too bad.

    • From the article,

      No president before him so abused custom, traditions, protocol (and the country he represents)

      The author was not only offensive he was wrong Mark,

  14. PJ, I respect you stand on this, but you will never reach people like Manfred.

    He is your commentator, so I’ll leave it at that, but thank God that through the grace of Christ I don’t believe like him.

  15. “The author was not only offensive he was wrong Mark,”

    I saw your reply and thought, “Uh oh, she got me…” 🙂

    Then I watched the video…ack, I cannot believe I watched a Rachel Maddow video of my own volition. 😉

    In most cases, I do not believe in speaking in absolutes, because that’s usually a sure sure formula for being proven wrong…so very few things are completely black and white. However, you cannot honestly tell me that Nixon bowing to Mao and Hirohito was the same as Obama’s bow to the Japanese emperor. I think Eisenhower had dropped his favorite pen and was simply looking for it, rather than bowing to DeGaulle. 😉

    It’s not the bow…it’s the depth of the bow. As you know, I was stationed in Korea for a year in the mid eighties and I came to give a slight bow of my head when I greated a Korean in their language…it was a natural thing, much like we shake hands with someone we meet. To this day, I do the same thing…however, it’s a slight bow of the head, not a bow at the waist – that’s a totally different thing. That is a form of supplication…much like a scrawny dog bending to the will of the pack’s alpha dog.

    You might think this is nitpicking but it’s not…it’s protocol. When I was in the army, I always made sure to walk one step behind a higher ranking officer and junior officers rendered me the same respect. It was expected and a natural thing to do…like covering one’s mouth when they cough (although a lot of people seem to have problems with this concept).

    Do I think that a lot of people are making a mountain out of a mole here with this? Yes…I saw it, rolled my eyes and thought that it showed he was clueless but I didn’t lose any sleep over it. I did wonder why his “handlers” didn’t brief him better on this though…

    So, in reply to your reponse…no, I do not think the author was wrong (at least not based on the Maddow video). Tacky and low-class? Sure, but not any moreso than what Maddow and Olbermann usually are…

    • Then I watched the video…ack, I cannot believe I watched a Rachel Maddow video of my own volition.

      Mark, i didn’t seek out the video by Maddow, I had seen similar reports on the news [TV and the web news] the last few days. I went to youtube just looking for a news clip and her’s was the latest on the topic. After watching it i also saw it included a mention of the Psalm 109:8 merchandise, so believed it a good example.

      Putting Maddow aside [i know people have their own likes and dislikes when it comes to news sources] the photo’s were the same one’s i saw on my local news 2 days ago when they reported on all the outrage coming from certain quarters, concerning the presidents bow.

  16. One thing I forgot to say…no matter what Obama does, he can’t win with a lot of people. I disagree with almost everything he stands for and I personally think his agenda is un-American…not that he’s necessarily un-American but what he wants to get done is not consistent with what this country has stood for the last 200+ years.

    The strange thing is that those who rail against him cannot see that they’re doing exactly the same thing that so many people did in regards to Bush when he was president…I agreed with very little he stood for either and thought he was disingenuous in many matters.

    Another recent matter that illustrates Obama’s cluelessness…in his first public statement on the day of the Ft. Hood shootings, he spoke nearly two minutes about the conference he was at…including giving a “shout out” to somebody…before he addressed the shootings. And even then, his response lacked any feeling…not saying he should have burst into tears or anything but at least ACT like it means something.

    As far as the last part of the video you posted…regarding Psalm 109:8 merchandise…that just sends a shiver down my spine. There are some seriously heartless people out there…draping themselves in a Bible passage in an effort to make what craziness they’re saying seem okay. Sad, but definitely a sign of what this country has become…

  17. Well PJ you’ve done it again haven’t you! Stirred up quit a little hornets nest here.

    As I said in the beginning I find the remarks of the author toward Obama’s mother offensive and I agree with Mark that those words only give people reason to dismiss the whole thing.

    I think the argument here is that due to his upbringing Obama does not share the values or the world view of the typical American.

    His mother was spiritual but not Christian. Both she and her parents leaned toward socialism in their political views. As a young boy Obama was raised in a country in which anti American sentiment was rampant. Even as a teen in Hawaii his most influential mentor was a man named Frank Marshall Davis who was a member of the Communist Party USA and was likely a paid agent of the Soviet Union. This is the background that formed the man who now resides in the WH.

    The reason Obama doesn’t act or talk like most Americans is because he’s not like most Americans. The fact that his mother married two men with black skin is irrelevant. The political and social views of his mother and her husbands is not.

    • Steve, im always stirring the controversy pot..ahahaha 🙂

      I’ve come to realize two subjects in particular, the current president or Israel, will always produce very strong opinions and hard stands.

  18. PJ: You know Jesus Christ, and you speak of him.

    Thank you for standing and calling.

    Go in peace and in my prayers.

  19. Thanks Bene…

  20.  1 I urge you, first of all, to pray for all people. Ask God to help them; intercede on their behalf, and give thanks for them. 2 Pray this way for kings and all who are in authority so that we can live peaceful and quiet lives marked by godliness and dignity. 3 This is good and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants everyone to be saved and to understand the truth. 5 For there is only one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity—the man Christ Jesus. 6 He gave his life to purchase freedom for everyone.

  21. Romans 13

    Respect for Authority

       Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. 3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you. 4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong. 5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.
     6 Pay your taxes, too, for these same reasons. For government workers need to be paid. They are serving God in what they do. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: Pay your taxes and government fees to those who collect them, and give respect and honor to those who are in authority.

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