You know, when a Preacher and Pastor no longer sees Jesus Christ as the only ‘key’ (or way) to salvation, they have left the faith and are teaching another Gospel. And what will the preaching and/or teaching of another gospel always produce? –
*Another Gospel (will always lead to one accepting) Another Jesus and Another spirit
I bring this to your attention because of a quote by John Hagee, which Adam pointed out last night under the post, Are there one people of God or two?.
Its taken from a message Hagee posted at Charisma last Tuesday: The Lord Has Chosen Zion.The entire article includes many misapplications of scripture, which is disturbing in itself; but its this below which proves without the shadow of a doubt, John Hagee is apostate:
It is important to be right on the Israel question when you consider that being wrong brings you under the curse of God and headed for eternal, everlasting fire with the devil and his angels. Israel is not a “take it or leave it” subject. It is a life and death matter-eternal life!
If you believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God and that those who reject its truths have entered into idolatry and rebellion; if you believe Jehovah God is a God of integrity and that it would be impossible for Him to break covenant; if you believe that Jesus Christ is our example and that we are to follow Him, then there is no biblical alternative but to support the nation of Israel..
Instead of our salvation and eternal life being dependent upon Christ and our faith in Him, Hagee now teaches that our salvation is dependent upon our financially and politically supporting modern day Israel. He even says if we don’t, we will be sent to hell. THAT my friends, is another Gospel.
How important is it that Christians bless the nation of Israel and the Jewish people? God told Abraham that all anti-Semites (those who are hostile toward the Jews) are under His curse..
Few Christians recognize that there are five judgments in Scripture. The first has occurred, and four are yet to be.
The first judgment was on sin at the cross (see Rom. 8:1). The second judgment will take place at the judgment seat of Christ, where all believers will give an account of the lives they lived before God on Earth (see 1 Cor. 3:10-15; 2 Cor. 5:10).
The third judgment is the judgment of the Jewish people (see Ezek. 20:34-38; Jer. 30:4-7; Daniel 12:1). The fourth judgment is the judgment of the nations. All the nations of the earth will be judged before God Almighty and His holy angels for the manner in which they treated the Jewish people.
The fifth judgment is the Great White Throne judgment for the wicked dead, who will be released from hell to appear before God for formal sentencing before they are cast into the lake of fire forever (see Rev. 20:11-15).
The fourth judgment is the one that most concerns us here. The time of this judgment is immediately after the Messiah returns to Earth to establish His literal kingdom in the city of Jerusalem. It is critical to your well-being that you understand what the Bible teaches about the believer’s treatment of God’s chosen people so you will not come under this judgment.
Who do you think are the hungry, naked, thirsty, sick, imprisoned strangers Jesus refers to in Matthew 25? They are not the church; they are the Jewish people.
Can you see how Hagee has not only misapplied scripture, but has totally twisted the meaning in certain instances?
- If time allows read the entire message Here.
You have to be registered (and logged in) in order to read the comment[s] section at Charisma, so I wanted to share with you what a few commenters had to say after reading this article by Hagee:
Why does everyone allow this man to spew false doctrine with out challenge?
I always thought that Matthew 25 referred to all people who were in need, no matter who they are. I don’t think the Lord is implicitly implying the strangers in need are only Jew.
Hagee uses zionism as a racket to garner favor and money from christians. His excomunicative terms towards anyone who does not drink his koolaid is exibit A.
Mr. Hagee, I just cannot equate eternal salvation with whether I launched campaigns to help Israel get what it wants today. Yet you threaten me with Hell if I do not. You are saying that I need faith in Jesus + a concerted effort to aid Isarel in order to be saved. Are you carried away with your zeal for Israel? Even to threatening Christians will hellfire and damnation? Let me ask you: Are you working hard to get unbelieving Jews saved by believing in Jesus, or do you just want to cooperate with the secular Jewish agenda? Out of fear that God will us all into the Fire if we don’t? All of your helps for what the Jews want now is not going to save their souls, is it? Or do you think that all of the Jews will be saved, no matter what?
I used to love Hagee’s no-nonsense, thunderous preaching, but his zeal for the state of Israel has swallowed him up. He writes without scriptural perspective. He just thunders away. He scares Believers without knowledge and understanding of scripture; but to those who have it, he is way off track.
I certainly hope that being wrong on “the Israel question” doesn’t determine one’s eternal destiny. If it does, Hagee is in big trouble. This article is so unbiblical it’s revolting.
Aside from the Scriptures astutely pointed out by Pastor Bruce Bennett, Jesus Himself even referred to unbelieving Jews as the synagogue of Satan (Revelation 2:9, 3:9). How then can the political nation of Israel and/or ethnic Jews be Christ’s brethren? They are certainly not God’s chosen people either. The Church is (e.g. I Peter 2:4-10), and there is no Jew or Gentile in Christ Jesus (Galatians 3:28-29).
Does John Hagee believe there are two distinct peoples of God? Feel free to answer this yourself, Mr. Hagee, if you read these comments. If there is only one people of God, is the Church left out, in your mind?
I was happy to see so many who left comments challenged him. In fact 8 out of the 9 comments, did just that. Bravo!!
For this isn’t just a matter of misinterpreting scripture folks, but its about “what” is required to be saved. John Hagee, for his own cause (CUFI) and because of his own obsession (with Israel) has added to the requirements for salvation, plainly laid out in God’s word:
“For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.” – Ephesians 2:8-9
“For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” – Romans 6:23
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” – Romans 10: 9-10
“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.” – John 5:24
“Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved.” – Acts 16:30-31
I will be so bold to say, following John Hagee’s ‘gospel’ could indeed cause you to lose out in the end.
Also see:
At Soul Refuge:
Breaking Free From Scofieldism And Modern Day “Christian” Zionism
Modern Day Deception: John Hagee And His False Teachings On Israel
Sola Dei Gloria 
Thank you for posting this PJ. I’m going to link to it.
You’re welcome Cathy!
I was glad Adam pointed it out last night in the other thread.
16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. 19He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow. (Colossians 2:16-19)
To put it simply Hagee has lost connection with the Head!
Yes i agree Yemi.
I’ve listened to John Hagee for years and my thought is that you’ve misconstrued his words and meaning. God himself said “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you”. Support of Israel and the Jew can be many things, including prayer. Pastor Hagee has never said financial support was the only way of supporting Israel and the Jew. I pray daily for Israel, the Jewish people and peace in Jerusalem as peace in Jerusalem would mean Jesus, our Savior is here, reigning from there. Israel and the Jewish people were chosen by God to be His people. It is only due to “the times of the gentiles” and God’s grace that we non-Jewish people are included.
Even so, come Lord Jesus!
Marcia, i didn’t misconstrue his words…i quoted them straight from the article. In fact i included the link to the article.
God spoke this to Abraham, about Abraham:
Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. Genesis 12: 1-3
“and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed” is speaking of Jesus the Messiah, who would come through the lineage of Abraham, and, who would ‘bless all families of the earth’ through the Gospel.
“Consider Abraham: “He believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Understand, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham. The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.” So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.” Galatians 3
Only if in Christ,
“…are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” Galatians 3: 29
I’m not exactly sure what you mean, but Jesus is sitting at the right hand of the Father in heaven.
Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all. Ephesians 1:20-23
I only will touch one part of this article: “being cursed”.
Let me be very clear on what Scripture teaches about “who” is being cursed!
You might be unstable and because of things like this article or other “so called” gospels heard or read about, while they “seem” quite convincing, you think you are “now cursed by God” because you are unwilling to oppose these other gospels or strongly come out against them, stand against them or their teachers or simply ignore them, these “other gospels”.
Let me tell you why God would curse you.
He curses everyone “who” dishonors anyone who “lives” by the same Faith given to Abram.
What does the Scripture teach?
Consider these words of Scripture:
Gen 12:1 Now the LORD said to Abram, “Go from your country and your kindred and your father’s house to the land that I will show you.
Gen 12:2 And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing.
Gen 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
Gen 12:4 So Abram went, as the LORD had told him, and Lot went with him. Abram was seventy-five years old when he departed from Haran.
God curses only those who dishonors Abram or anyone with the same Faith as our Patristic father Abraham!
While as yet childless, God “blessed” Abram, who was reckoned as “Righteous as God Himself” simply because he believed God and what was given to him by Faith. Abram believed God could do what is naturally impossible for man to do! Abram believed God and it was reckoned to him as righteousness:::>
Gen 15:1 After these things the word of the LORD came to Abram in a vision: “Fear not, Abram, I am your shield; your reward shall be very great.”
Gen 15:2 But Abram said, “O Lord GOD, what will you give me, for I continue childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?”
Gen 15:3 And Abram said, “Behold, you have given me no offspring, and a member of my household will be my heir.”
Gen 15:4 And behold, the word of the LORD came to him: “This man shall not be your heir; your very own son shall be your heir.”
Gen 15:5 And he brought him outside and said, “Look toward heaven, and number the stars, if you are able to number them.” Then he said to him, “So shall your offspring be.”
Gen 15:6 And he believed the LORD, and he counted it to him as righteousness.
Why then does God curse a person? Well, it is simple. Because the people who “do not” believe God are the people who do not His Faith to live in His Faith, like Abram, cited above. These are the ones who dishonor God and God’s people. These people are cursed! Jesus makes the point who are cursed of God, here:
Mat 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
The question you need to answer is this:
“Do you believe Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God”?
“Do you believe Jesus was born of a virgin and became flesh and lived on earth”?
“Do you confess the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead”?
Answering yes to any of these questions or all of them, you can safely rest by Faith and conclude that you have been given Faith to believe God. God does not curse His people who believe His Word.
What remains then for us, but this:::>
Heb 4:1 Therefore, while the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us fear lest any of you should seem to have failed to reach it.
Heb 4:2 For good news came to us just as to them, but the message they heard did not benefit them, because they were not united by faith with those who listened.
Heb 4:3 For we who have believed enter that rest, as he has said, “As I swore in my wrath, ‘They shall not enter my rest,'” although his works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Heb 4:4 For he has somewhere spoken of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all his works.”
Heb 4:5 And again in this passage he said, “They shall not enter my rest.”
Heb 4:6 Since therefore it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly received the good news failed to enter because of disobedience,
Heb 4:7 again he appoints a certain day, “Today,” saying through David so long afterward, in the words already quoted, “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts.”
Heb 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken of another day later on.
Heb 4:9 So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God,
Heb 4:10 for whoever has entered God’s rest has also rested from his works as God did from his.
Heb 4:11 Let us therefore strive to enter that rest, so that no one may fall by the same sort of disobedience.
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
Heb 4:13 And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
Heb 4:14 Since then we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession.
Heb 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.
Heb 4:16 Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.
The promised “Gospel” was made to Abram and to “his seed”, Who is Christ, not the nation of Israel.
That is why Paul later on in his ministry wrote this about that making a “clear” distinction between the two, natural Israel, a nation and God’s Spiritual Israel, The Holy Nation, the peculiar people, the Church:
Gal 6:12 It is those who want to make a good showing in the flesh who would force you to be circumcised, and only in order that they may not be persecuted for the cross of Christ.
Gal 6:13 For even those who are circumcised do not themselves keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh.
Gal 6:14 But far be it from me to boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
Gal 6:15 For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.
Gal 6:16 And as for all who walk by this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God.
Peter makes a similar distinction here:
1Pe 2:6 For it stands in Scripture: “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”
1Pe 2:7 So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe, “The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,”
1Pe 2:8 and “A stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense.” They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.
1Pe 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.
1Pe 2:10 Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
Michael, i agree. We MUST speak out about ‘other’ gospels, which Paul wrote, are ‘no Gospel at all’
“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel, which is really no gospel at all.” Galatians 1: 6-7a
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8,9
False ‘gospels’ will bring no one to Christ…
just a short note…its unbelievable to me how the world church takes the Word of God and make it into the wisdom of this world, earthly, sensual…of course…we know the true church of Christ is bein raised by Christ and His sheep heaar His voice and wont listen to the stranger’s voice…what a blessin to hear from another sheep… 🙂
also…on a side note…i still have problems wit a hacker…he recently cloned my hard drive…soooo….ima keep my blogs open but i will not comment anymore on your blog…pls know im readin and bein blessed and keepin u and urs in prayer and know the Lord is raisin His up…
if u get any comment from me…pls feel free to block it and not post it since i wont be commenting anymore…its the only way i know to not give the hacker access to ppl i may connect with…also…have closed all messenger accounts and not using IM anymore…
thank God this is not the Kingdom of our God and His Christ 😉 im lookin for a city whose builder and maker is God…be bless…may the Lord satisfy you with long life and peace… -g-
I’m sorry to hear you’re continuing to have problems. Pray it gets fixed soon!
My pastor (we have two elders who share the preaching) spoke yesterday from Matt 7:15-20. He emphasized from Scripture (lots references – I don’t have my notes with me) that we are to identify, expose, and flee from false prophets.
Voddie Baucham can most persuasive as he presents the Word of God 🙂
Manfred you’re blessed to have such a pastor!! He must be a true watchman over the sheep. The churches doesn’t have enough of those behind pulpits today…
PJ,
Both of our elders – the other one being a man by the name of Paul Renfro – guard the flock and are serious about their responsibilities. They are humble before men and God – Voddie told us (again) yesterday to test what we hear in our own church, coming from their mouths. In his discourse on exposing the command to expose false prophets, he read Titus 1:7-11 – adding “That’s my job description as an elder – hold me to it! I am a weak, sinful man depending on Christ for everything that is good.” (best recollection on the wording)
That text, for the edification of the saints:
“For an overseer, as God’s steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined. He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it. For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party. They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach. ”
How I thank the Lord for faithful men who shrink not back from proclaiming the whole consul of God!
Hi PJ … The 2 SOUL REFUGE links you reference at the bottom of this post are not working. Billy said to tell you he’s sorry. Here are 2 updated links for those posts …
http://soulrefuge.org/2009/08/04/breaking-free-from-scofieldism-and-modern-day-christian-zionism/
http://soulrefuge.org/2009/06/18/john-hagee-and-his-deceptive-stand-concerning-israel/
[…] There are “prophets” and “teachers” that would have one believe that the current State of Israel and all it does is not only backed by God, but that ones salvation is dependent upon which side of the issue they take. Absurd. According to John Hagee, one MUST support the State of Israel for salvation, and to be “on Gods side”. Nonsense. Not only nonsense, but a very, very error laden doctrinal position to take. A great blog entry on this: https://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/john-hagee-teaches-another-gospel/ […]